To some extent i see and agree with what he is saying but most wil simply argue that he is dying off career wise, less fan base and he has to sort of reinvent his style to make more cheddar.....
Hiphop fans in here?
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Akon vs Nate Dogg
Are this two comparable? if yes, who is better?
Are this two comparable? if yes, who is better?
Phunk-E-Man said:
Never heard of him (I aint too keen about UK hiphop like before)...got any mp3 of him i can listen too?
Anyone heard the new Ice cube's album - Laugh now cry later. In my opinion Ice is back and unstopable. I absolutely love every track, the production is slick, the lyrics are venemous, political, social and hard-hitting. He also replied all those critic who said "he has gone hollywood".......If you know what's good, i would recommend you bootleg this album (ok that was a joke, go buy the proper cd please) 
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friddela said:
Yeah that's the one.
OK, another album (not sure if is an album or mixtape) to check out is G.A.M.E from The game. Imo i think it is a mixtape but all the tracks are heavy, he dosent sound like he sounds now so am guessing that must be some old tracks he did a while ago.
He sounds like Shyne and Gorrilla Black on some of the track and the production is as you would expect - tight. Also check for an album (proper one) dropping before the year is over - this would be his first album after being dropped by Dre
due to the rawkus with 50cents apparently.
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friddela said:
No doubt will do, i have been hearing some of his songs and he would appear to be able to manipulate words easily - on par or if not better than eminem. I heard he called himself the "saviour of Rap" which i dont agree with.
Gonna go to the download area i use to check out the album.
Sp00n said:
Do you know who papoose is, have you heard him spit?
Sp00n said:
Either you need you ear wax cleaned out or you just refuse to admit. Papoose style is on par and as time goes by will be better than what eminem spits - He is at his peak and can get better than what he as done so far, papoose still getting stronger.
Yes i have heard eminem freestyle - his freestyle ability is sometimes questionable. He rushes the word out via his nose and mandible - Style that has been used time and time again by various artist (Pac, Slick rick etc), he cant keep to beat during battle - go listen to cannibus freestyle and you will see what i mean, while papoose can do all of those and even have a beter "dexterity of words" than eminen.
You know,... aint nothing new about shady style, it has been done before, but because a white boy got hooked with dre why wont you expect people to think he is exceptionally good? The truth is he aint, but just good.
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Sp00n said:
Yet again, you dont seem to get it. Mixtapes is a way of showing your CV - what you are capable of without even been signed to a major record label, it is also done to gather a very strong fan base. Sway (UK) sold over 10000 mixtapes because his style is a fresh of breathe air amongst the UK rapper.
How can you call someone a mixtape rapper and yet you think he is not on par with eminem? Even his style is been comapred with BigL (one of the best ever) which if i remember correctly eminem paid tribute to when he won his first major award (also paid tribute to BIGgie, pac and big pun - he said he all learn from them).
Again there is nothing original about eminem's style - he rhyme from the mandible - so does pac in his early years and Slick rick. Papoose is clearly a walking dictionary and an english teacher al wrapped up in the body of one human, how dare you says he dosent even know what he is talking about? Yet he makes complete sense.
You think you know punchline? Go hear Cannibus, Jin, even papoose and then you will see what i mean.
Look eminem is a white guy doing what normally will be associated with a black dude in america - i.e sticking your middle finger up to the establishment and doing outlandish stuff. Vanilla ice did back then and it worked so why shouldnt it work for eminem? Dre saw this imo and took him on board. Without dre beats, why will he be today? Nowhere! Go and listen to album produced by eminem - Loyal to the game. He clearly dosent have a clue about beats. He messed up the whole album but on that same album go and check out "Po ***** blues" produced by Storch scott and then you will understand where am coming from.
This is my last take on this if you think emshady is better or the best, fine by me but i know whose CD i will buy and which i will bootleg.
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Royce Da 5 9 is bascially a black version of emimem. He just didnt have the luck the white version had. He is regarded as one of the best yet to come out of detriot.
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iamgud said:
I love hiphop too
Big L is one if the baddest manipulator of words and can switch style before you know it.....I have his last ablum- the Big picture. The is a freestlye he did in the studio that was included on that album, man it is like a template for freestyle and towards the end he said he was tired! No imagine what he would spit out if he wasnt
It is a shame he got shot by a coward. In the words of Fat Joe "he died before his time" rest in peace man.
DanTheMan said:
I am not brushing you off, sorry if i come across like that. I guess we gonna have to stick to each others gun but be mature about it.
Anyone heard the news that One of the guys from outkast wants (or has) buy his 9 year old son a gun for birthday? Cant seem to find the link but it was on the radio this morning......I will reserve my comment until i see the link.
Sp00n said:
You know, when i finish laughing, am gonna reply. So hold on, this might take a while.
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So one of the most influential DJ is talking non-sense when he compared him to big L? anyway like i said before...i have made my points and i stand by them.
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benneh said:
Opinions are like backsides....everyone has one.
Sp00n said:
It is amazing how as soon one dont agree with someone's "endorsed list of rappers" one automatically becomes knowledgeless, arrogant, ignorant and "listening to the same old crap".....
I dont need posters "endorsment" to be accepted that i know about hiphop.
Benneh
If i dont know about hiphop like you pointed out, what the heck are we discussing in here then, Pop rap? (it is still a form of hiphop) seriously, the joke is on you. I wouldnt mind if it was someone who dont jump on my back across the forum. The fact that it is you is laughable. All the artist you listed, i have heard some of them - similar to some of penski's list. Anyway back on track. I wont be drawn into another debate that would lead to situation like this. Finally, this thread is about hiphop lets keep it that way.
Gangsta Rap lovers/fans.....The Game new album seem to be out now, I will be posting my review in here later. If anyone heard it yet, let me know what you think. Peace.
Gangsta Rap lovers/fans.....The Game new album- Doctor's Advocate seem to be out now, I will be posting my review in here later. If anyone heard it yet, let me know what you think. Peace.
The Doctor's advocate a mini review.
This album is the latest from The Game after the whole beef with 50 cents and the whole of G- Unit. The album is a million miles better than his last, even though he was dropped by Dr dre (a business decision) he has some of dre beats on the album from earlier work.
The production is as you would expect - Fresh sound and tight beats. Lyrically, the game is still untochable - Raw and speaking his god damm mind. He talks about his beef with 50 and some the drama he went through. One of my favourite track is the one he did with Busta Rhymes, he basically talked directly to Dre - why he didnt listen to him and beefed with 50. (Guys you gotta listen to this track, it is touching. It reaffirms the saying that inside every gangsta is a big heart!)
Also check out the track One Blood.
Im gonna stop here as im still listening again and again to the whole album. So far, am loving it. 8.5/10. Go get it if you love G.Rap.
This album is the latest from The Game after the whole beef with 50 cents and the whole of G- Unit. The album is a million miles better than his last, even though he was dropped by Dr dre (a business decision) he has some of dre beats on the album from earlier work.
The production is as you would expect - Fresh sound and tight beats. Lyrically, the game is still untochable - Raw and speaking his god damm mind. He talks about his beef with 50 and some the drama he went through. One of my favourite track is the one he did with Busta Rhymes, he basically talked directly to Dre - why he didnt listen to him and beefed with 50. (Guys you gotta listen to this track, it is touching. It reaffirms the saying that inside every gangsta is a big heart!)
Also check out the track One Blood.
Im gonna stop here as im still listening again and again to the whole album. So far, am loving it. 8.5/10. Go get it if you love G.Rap.
Mayhs said:
That is almost an impossible way to sort it out. In one of my debate with someone in here, i told them Tupac's hit 'em up is one the most rage-filled track ever made. Guess what, they person went to check it out via reading the lyrics and come back in here rubbishing it and posting another rapper's lyrics as something better.
The truth is, reading an artist lyrics sometimes dont do justice to what we are trying to get across.
Yeah man, good to see people appreciating good taste
before i got here, it was mostly Guitars and punk rock plus plenty talk about robbie williams and Green day... 
Let's keep this alive and discsuss things that are hiphop related.
friddela said:
You know, i like how you come out straight and say what you listen to and how you throw out a question in the end. The truth is i agreewith you but i dont think some on the forum will. Im sure if thisthread is to go by, all those artist you mentioned are "crap artist" and "all talk about the same thing"
Perhaps if you make a list of unknown artist or under ground artist that havent dropped an album in donkey years then you know about hiphop! (perhaps the only reason those artist are "under-ground" is because they are a commercial failure or better still, they are so rubbish that they have a small fan base).....