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Ah yes sarcasm. The classic defense to questioning the events of WW2. :D

Nevermind eh, the Commies only took over half the continent anyway. Bravo, mission accomplished. 250,000 UK troops dead, British cities razed - all for what?

"Don't forget Poland!"
 
Old Turkey said:
Ah yes sarcasm. The classic defense to questioning the events of WW2. :D

Nevermind eh, the Commies only took over half the continent anyway. Bravo, mission accomplished. 250,000 UK troops dead, British cities razed - all for what?
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Freedom of speech, not living under the Nazi jackboot, etc etc.
 
Freefaller said:
I don't do German - never studied it! I thought my effort was pretty good! :D Despite being in germany now it hasn't given me german lingual skills unfortunately :p
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Pretty good I have to say, I just thought I'd be a spelling Nazi.;)

My German lingual skills got me a family pass for a week in Aachen once! W00T! Just needed a wifey and kids and I'm sorted. Still can't understand why a bus driver gives a 17 year old, on his own, a family pass but meh!
 
Old Turkey said:
Thats it. Keep trotting out the usual canned WW2 defense. :D

If you keep saying it enough I might actually believe it. Lol. :D

Next you'll tell me it was to stop the Holocaust. :D
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Can you prove that Germany was no threat to the UK? I mean it was a threat to everyone else.

The UK steped in because Germanys actions were reprehencable and we were the only nation in Europe with the might to oppose the Germans (and we were trounced on the mainland).

If we did not engage Germany when we did they would have been on our door step sooner and with a bigger army. I have no doubt in my mind that we would be speaking German now if we did not enter the war when we did.
 
Old Turkey said:
I don't live in Nanaland .. I live in Turkeyland where we still have a strong military but are indifferent to what happens elsewhere. :D
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I'm sorry but it was the attitude of the world in the '30s and '40s of "Its not on my doorstep" that had a lot of Europe Conquered by the Germans. I prefer the "Not on my watch" approach that we are taking today. TBH I wish we were a bit more proactive and ruthless. Zimbabwe should have been sorted out at the first sign of trouble rather than being ignored as it has been.
 
I can't prove that Germany was not a threat, the same way you can't prove that Germany would have attacked us if we had not "intervened" either.

Why did Hitler expand east instead of going for us first? It seems quite logical to me to capture one of the most industrialised Countries first, as a method of increasing ones capacity to make War further on in the future. Instead he attacked East, funnily enough inline with his rhetoric of Eastern expansion! Hmm. I wonder, if he was true to his word about Eastern expansion, was he possibly true to his word that he "admired" us too?

And all this talk of reprehensible actions to me is just guff. 6 million Ukrainian peasants died at the hands of Stalin. Where was our moral courage there? :D Ah I forgot. We were allied with the USSR to beat big bad Hitler. "Uncle Joe" is sooo cute. :D

I just see a great deal of it all as double standards and hypocrisy and where the ends justify the means. This doesn't mean I am some sort of anti-war pacifist .. quite to the contrary .. I just wish we put our Country first .. TRUST NO ONE.

I don't care about Iraq, or Bosnia, or Sierra Leone, or Zimbabwe, or Poland, or any other 3rd World dump you wish to mention. They're not our problems.
 
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