Soldato
It's not so much foreign trucks as trucks in general. I think it's about time they were consigned to the inside lane only on a national basis.Involving an foreign truck driver! Doesn’t surprise me.
Horrific Crash on M6
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Soldato
No, because I could probably paste another 10 news stories links regarding car crashes from the past week, let alone the numerous other ways of people dying. What makes these guys so 'special' and worthy of your mourning?
"Meh" in regard to a whole family being wiped out in a crash that left their remains very difficult to identify.
People dying in circumstances like this warrant some compassion at least. I know you dont know them personally, and i know thousands of people die each day.. but when its something like this you cant help but feel for them.
Well i cant anyway, but i guess you lack any emotion it seems.
Given the stories you hear about foreign truck drivers who often dont maintain their vehicles to the same vigourous standards as UK drivers, who often have less regard for road rules and most importantly are driving a large vehicle that already suffers from numerous blind spots with a foreign configuration (ie, left hand drive), the original statement isn't really that far off the mark. As someone has said, anyone who has driven on Portugese roads will also know theat they can be 'exciting', to say the least.
I'm not saying that the driver was definately at fault, but you should consider that Fothsns statement was not meant in a racist sense before jumping all over him.
Nothing makes them "special" at all. Its the simply fact that its a tragedy. its sad that children with their lives ahead of them die in such a horrific way.
comments like yours come up quite often on here, i just dont get it really, I know there isnt a personal link, but i think it should be in our nature to sympathise/aknowledge people in circumstances like this.
Soldato
Soldato
I'd rather be 'wiped out' (nice compassionate vocabulary) instantly in a high-speed crash than, say, raped, shot or tortured.
Caporegime
Yep not surprising that it was a foreign driver, last year I went on holiday to Portugal with a friend and his mum and his mums bf was driving and we went around allot in the car and you could see how craaaazy allot of the drivers where.
Why are they not? We happen to be discussing them because the circumstances of their death were newsworthy, not because they're deserving of mourning any more than other people who've died this week. But because they died, we feel sorry for them and their families, as we would in any other case someone innocent died.
Soldato
Be careful there you might get label a racist it seems, anyway this is my point they don’t have the same safety procedures as we ‘UK Licence holders’ do, they seem to all be crazy
Soldato
Took me literally 2 seconds to find:
Where's your mournful topic for them? Oh yeah, they're not British.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/19/india.bridge/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/10/18/james.rhoades.ap/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/19/afghan.bus.attack.ap/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/14/tijuana.violence.ap/index.html
Where's your mournful topic for them? Oh yeah, they're not British.
Associate
Well said Conscript
Caporegime
Agree with this, i'm not saying the truck driver is to blame it could have been the car driver but its more likely and usually results in a worse accident when a foreign truck crashes in the uk.
Associate
I don't think Fothsn was being 'racist' with his comments, simply that foreign trucks are often (compared with UK trucks) less well maintained, and the drivers are likely to have spent more time at the wheel.
According tothis artical, foreign trucks are 8 times more likely to be involved in a serious RTA in the UK.
According tothis artical, foreign trucks are 8 times more likely to be involved in a serious RTA in the UK.
Caporegime
This part of the M6 is the most dangerous i think, J15 is very very bad.
Soldato
i cant believe the people jumping on the racist comments lol.
Most accidents involving a truck with a fatality are foreign trucks, i dont care who its driven by, could a turk, a china man. french or what ever.
ITS TRUE.
Trucks in general have some bad blind spots., left hand drive have it even worse. Very easy for a left hooker to move over to the right and not see the small nissan micra which has just gone under it wheels.
As for the other accident stories others have posted, i think this is a bit closer to home. Being the UK and that.
Most accidents involving a truck with a fatality are foreign trucks, i dont care who its driven by, could a turk, a china man. french or what ever.
ITS TRUE.
Trucks in general have some bad blind spots., left hand drive have it even worse. Very easy for a left hooker to move over to the right and not see the small nissan micra which has just gone under it wheels.
As for the other accident stories others have posted, i think this is a bit closer to home. Being the UK and that.
Caporegime
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Theres two things that strike me, firstly, people in their OWN country are unlikely to drive on the wrong side of the road, I'm not saying you were, I'm saying, unless you stopped and had a chat with them in portuguese how do you know thats where they were from.
THe other point being long haul driving around Europe tend to deliver from one country to another, they could realistically have been from anywhere could they not, and its far more likely a driver from another country was driving on the wrong side of the road.
Pretty much everything in your statement would make me believe they weren't Portuguese, hell, they might have been English.
I also laugh, wholeheartidly at the idea that there are no unsafe english lorries being driven around. Have any of you not ever lived in the UK, with dodgey people working for dodgey people and shockingly not abiding by the rules. There are some foreign drivers who realise their job is their livelyhood and crashing their vehicle due to crappy maintainance will only lead to their death, there will be some who don't give a crap and drive a wreck, both types of people who you would also find working in the UK.
I've been witness to thousands of ridiculously bad drivers cutting across traffic on motorways, jumping redlights, causing accidents in my years, the majority of them were English. There are thousands of crashes a day all caused by English people. Yes it IS completely and utterly ridiculous, without question, to say you're not remotely surprised it was a foreign driver and it is a fairly typical response these days on the forum.
had it been a uk driver you would not have said you were not surprised, considering the massive, ridiculous majority of car crashes in the uk are caused by english drivers, surely you would not be surprised to see it was a English driver but surprised it was a foreign driver.
ANyway, it was probably caused by a smegging chav throwing a brick into the lorry off a bridge..............
Yeah, i took the foreign/racist angle and made my own typical chav/anti english scum semi racist comment, irony.
Soldato
or burnt in a fireball car with the rest of your immediate family. Accidents like this dont happen often. RIP those involved.
