How feminists effect gaming

shorttricky said:
The playable characters are all women. I can find no evidence that the male non-playable characters have tanlines, speedo mishaps or package bounce physics. Unless you can find something that says I'm wrong there, I'm going to say "women"




Bearing in mind more women are playing games than men now, it seems short-sighted to potentially cut out more than half of the potential audience.



Actually there was much written about Witcher for the exact reason much of the nudity seemed to be 'look boobies!'. They do at least have the point that there is a large and overriding story and the sex is very much a secondary issue. That's why you didn't hear about it as much as Quiet from MGS5. Witcher and Dragon Age are also both rated PEGI 18.




So, that's one example, against the 9 playable characters in DOA. Name 8 more, then I'll take a turn :p
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Dead or alive is well known for its bounce physics. It's been that way from day one. The title has included both men and women. So what if this title includes women only. If it just had men would you moan about that too?

Help me out here. What are you fighting for?
 
DAIR said:
This isn't a numbers game. You were given an example.

Fact of the matter is. If you're unhappy with the way a group is portrayed in media (not just computer games). Then don't view it. Simple as.

I think the ordeal that insects have to go through in I'm a celebrity get me out of here, it atrocious. I'm not going to kick off about it though because there are those who like it. I don't. So have chosen not to watch it.

But since we're talking about computer games. How do you feel about violence in computer games. I guess you're against that too. People like you (those who moan because they wholeheartedly believe their cause is just, without flaw and Understood by the majority) really do annoy me. Lol
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There isn't a problem with these games being made. It is a little sad if there's a demand for them, though. Which there isn't, in the West, it would seem (per the publisher's expectations). Good to see we're moving beyond that sort of thing as a mass-market.

If there remains a niche interest, then fine - leave it to the weirdos. You won't find me wielding placards about it. Specialist titles do what they do - I like that we can have such diversity in the industry.
 
cheesyboy said:
There isn't a problem with these games being made. It is a little sad if there's a demand for them, though. Which there isn't, in the West, it would seem (per the publisher's expectations). Good to see we're moving beyond that sort of thing as a mass-market.

If there remains a niche interest, then fine - leave it to the weirdos. You won't find me wielding placards about it. Specialist titles do what they do - I like that we can have such diversity in the industry.
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Each to their own I guess, as some might class you as "sad" or "weird" for disliking the title. I get that.

But to suggest a title shouldn't be available is against the freedom to express and create. There is a market for everything. And titles like this will continue to sell regardless.
 
DAIR said:
This isn't a numbers game. You were given an example.
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Lucky for you because you'd lose badly :p

DAIR said:
But since we're talking about computer games. How do you feel about violence in computer games. I guess you're against that too. People like you (those who moan because they wholeheartedly believe their cause is just, without flaw and Understood by the majority) really do annoy me. Lol
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I'm not sure where I fit in the "people like you" then because you went wrong right at the start. It's like you don't know me at all :(

I have no issue with violence in videogames. As long as it's age appropriate - no need for Sonic to be performing fatalities :eek:

Despite what you'd love to believe, I have no issue with sex in videogames. As long as it's age appropriate - I certainly do not want to see Mario and Luigi double-teaming Bowser :eek::eek::eek:

My only issue with stuff like DOA: Xtreme is the people deluding themselves that the game is not sexist - that it's some bastion of male rights in the fight against rampant feminism, instead of just admitting that it's outdated pre-teen smut that should sit on the shelf next to Benny Hill and Zoo.

Should it be banned? Of course not. That's why I haven't said at any point it should be.

Should it exist? Honestly, I'd rather it didn't - I'd much rather that people could take games seriously as a proper storytelling medium, instead of a prepubescent boy's wet dream. Sort of like how Michael Bay shouldn't be representative of film.

DAIR said:
Dead or alive is well known for its bounce physics. It's been that way from day one. The title has included both men and women. So what if this title includes women only. If it just had men would you moan about that too?
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Not the fighting game - this is a separate series, that has never had playable male characters. I wouldn't say a word if it had playable men in that had speedo mishaps, a selection of thongs and mankinis, and full bouncing packages - I have no issue with sexism when it's evenly applied (ie: the South Park defence)
 
Lol so you're okay with sexism... I see.

You just want everyone to experience an equal share of sexism lol
 
DAIR said:
Lol so you're okay with sexism... I see.

You just want everyone to experience an equal share of sexism lol
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Absolutely!

Look at it this way - if there were big floppy men packages waggling about alongside all the boobs in DOA Xtreme, none of this discussion would be happening - because what would anyone complain about? Koei Tecmo would have said it wasn't come to the West because it doesn't sell; PlayAsia certainly wouldn't have been able to drum up business by waving the SJW hashtag; maybe ThestigGT999 would still be rushing to buy a copy, I don't know what his bag is...

The only complaint would be that it was crass...which it would be. But equally so ;)
 
shorttricky said:
Absolutely!

Look at it this way - if there were big floppy men packages waggling about alongside all the boobs in DOA Xtreme, none of this discussion would be happening - because what would anyone complain about? Koei Tecmo would have said it wasn't come to the West because it doesn't sell; PlayAsia certainly wouldn't have been able to drum up business by waving the SJW hashtag; maybe ThestigGT999 would still be rushing to buy a copy, I don't know what his bag is...

The only complaint would be that it was crass...which it would be. But equally so ;)
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Oh I'm sure you'd still find something to moan about.
 
Idea Factory Int'l President: 'We Don't Want to Censor Anymore'

In an interview with the Operation Rainfall website, Idea Factory International (IFI) President Haru Akenaga stated that certain views on the sexualization of women in video games in the West have "stopped us from localizing certain Compile Heart games." Akenaga added, "We don't want to censor anymore because we know that's not true to the original developed art."

On the question of whether or not IFI will begin releasing English-subtitled titles in Asia more often, as it did with Moe Chronicle, Akenaga answered that "we could start seeing that more in Asia, but maybe we should do something to change in the West in the future. Anyway, we just don't want to censor anymore."

Idea Factory International announced earlier this week that its updated Steam release of Compile Heart's Monster Monpiece PlayStation Vita game will include all of the original artwork featured in the Japanese release of the game. The company had censored the PS Vita release in North America and Europe. The Steam version is slated for spring 2016.

Last month, a community manager for developer Team Ninja implied in a Facebook post that the decision to not publish Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 in the West was due to "many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry."

Idea Factory International is the international publishing branch of Japanese game developer and publisher Idea Factory. Its Compile Heart subsidiary develops the Hyperdimension Neptunia series of games. IFI released Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 3: V Century in North America on June 30, and in Europe on July 3, as the most recent of the games in the series. Idea Factory released Compile Heart's Megadimension Neptunia VII for the PlayStation 4 in Japan on April 23. A Western release for the game is planned for early 2016.
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Given anything short of child pornography is pretty much OK for release in the UK and US (including torture, violence, pornography etc.)....I'm curious as to what exactly was censored from their games?

Never heard of their games, but judging by the artwork on the article I'm going to guess it is in the over-sexualised anime children in skimpy clothing genre.
 
ThestigGT999 said:
Idea Factory Int'l President: 'We Don't Want to Censor Anymore'
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Now you're barking up the wrong tree.

As a muesli eating, sandal wearing, guardian reading, feminist sympathising lefty, I actually don't have a problem with this type of material being available.

I mean, it's ****ing weird that you want to consume stuff which depicts stylised underage girls in strange clothes-removing scenarios, but whatever - I don't see the harm (except, maybe, to your own personal social development - go meet some real women you weirdo :D ).

It's the conservative (small "c") right who is your big problem there. They lose their **** over this sort of thing.
 
A card game featuring images of child-like characters that rewards you for levelling up by removing their clothes.

This falls foul of our child protection laws that prohibit the creation and distribution of child pornography. Now personally I think it's just a bit tragic, but if you have laws that make child porn illegal and include animated/CGI imagery......then this game falls in that category.
 
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