How To Get Hubby To Pay His Way

In short, If he's not on the mortgage, cannot proove any financial contribution, i.e. paying all the utility bills and shopping etc, he will get much less than a 50/50 share, if anything. The court will look at the overall picture when splitting assets.

If it's obvious hes been freeloading, which it sounds like, he's on a very stickey wicket.

This is the most correct statement where no children involved.

He’d stand no chance in court.
 
I think the key thing is there. And thus I guess I need to repoint out again; Is she "really" asking you for advice on how to deal with this, and the intention (by her) is "by any means necessary", and "no limit on what she needs to do to make this happen" because she's ready to take action over this? Or is this you (the family) interpreting this as what she wants from you (her family) to do for her and she actually only wanted to vent to someone she can do to instead? And actually has ZERO intention of doing anything?

In some cases, "some" people (like those on how you're describing her), just need to vent, and have absolutely no problems at all really with the poor hand they have been dealt with to play. Because given what you have written there that I have quoted and highlighted, there's a real danger that might be what they're doing, and you might be overstepping through misunderstanding their actual need.

Note, I'm not saying it's not a bad situation to be in, only that as someone (you; the family) who does care for them, and that description of them from you, that you aren't ending up treading on something else in the end (her self esteem) that you might not be able to untread from (and make things a lot worse). Have you talked to her and explained to them that it might be necessary to talk the "ultimate" step to get what she wants, and that means Divorce? Because if she's not down with that, there's nothing more to really say or do at that point.

Your most recent post tells us she's gone to sort her Will out and that she's asked about Divorce and what would be split; that only tells us that she's done this, maybe in hopes in being able to use it as a bargaining chip to get what they want (which may not be actual Divorce). But is she able to take this final step however? Given your description of her?

Again, I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm repeat, just I'm quite aware of how fragile some peoples minds can be, and just want to be sure you're all on the same page before something is done that only sends her into a worse state and spiral that they may not be able to get themselves out of.

She keeps discussing this with me because she is hoping I can come up with some magic bullet to help.

Not a bargaining chip, he went through a little bad patch and it forced her to look in to the situation.

I guess it's the same as any big life problem - if you can't find an answer, it's not that there isn't an answer, its that you're avoiding the only answers that do exist, and I guess that's truth here. She has to really put her foot down over this, and I know full well that she won't.

Surely if the husbands name is on the deeds he’s entitled to half the house regardless of what he has or hasn’t paid?

His name isn't. It's all in her name. All the bills too. He has contributed nothing to repayment of the mortgage or the running of the house.
 
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In short, If he's not on the mortgage, cannot proove any financial contribution, i.e. paying all the utility bills and shopping etc, he will get much less than a 50/50 share, if anything. The court will look at the overall picture when splitting assets.

If it's obvious hes been freeloading, which it sounds like, he's on a very stickey wicket.

Absolutely this. Had a solicitor friend who told me that in the event of divorce to always have your name on the bills and to never be the one to walk out, especially if kids are involved.
 
Absolutely this. Had a solicitor friend who told me that in the event of divorce to always have your name on the bills and to never be the one to walk out, especially if kids are involved.

Her solicitor told her she was being generous giving him any consideration at all, the courts would see it as he deserved nothing.
 
Sounds suss - as others have said it's probably related to addiction or debt.

I would be very worried about this dude signing up for loans etc using your sisters identity/assets as security. Situation is weird af
 
Sounds suss - as others have said it's probably related to addiction or debt.

I would be very worried about this dude signing up for loans etc using your sisters identity/assets as security. Situation is weird af

Thats a good point - she should be checking her credit scores ASAP to see if any shenans are going on.
 
Her solicitor told her she was being generous giving him any consideration at all, the courts would see it as he deserved nothing.
That isn't how marriages work.

Some very healthy couples have one person paying for "everything" and then the other person saves/pays for holidays.
 
She keeps discussing this with me because she is hoping I can come up with some magic bullet to help.

Fully understandable, it appears they have nowhere else to turn, and thus have opened up to you about it. So that's a good sign.

Not a bargaining chip, he went through a little bad patch and it forced her to look in to the situation.

"Looking into the situation", may still be aiming for a bargaining chip. Especially with how you've described them (sister) and how they've handled events in the past.

Again; broken record, just make sure they are fully aware and onboard, and don't pressure them to a forced realisation of this road of events. An eventual realisation of this being the only viable outcome that they come to themselves means they're ready for it. Otherwise, the danger is they may blame opening up to her family about the matter and only alienate them from you. Which can lead to all sorts of unfortunate circumstances.

I guess it's the same as any big life problem - if you can't find an answer, it's not that there isn't an answer, its that you're avoiding the only answers that do exist, and I guess that's truth here. She has to really put her foot down over this, and I know full well that she won't.

Yeah, that quoted bit I've highlighted is what I'm most concerned with. It means she's not ready to do so. :-/
 
That isn't how marriages work.

Some very healthy couples have one person paying for "everything" and then the other person saves/pays for holidays.

Yes, and that would be taken into consideration, for example it's not massivley uncommon for partner A to already have the morgage, partner B moves in and simply takes on the utility bills, shopping, hollidays etc.

But partner B would be able to evidence that, which is not the case here.

It happened like that when my dad remarried and then divorced - no children involved and it transpired that not only were no contributions to the household made by her, my dad could also evidence that he'd beein paying for hollidays, her car servicing, new tyres, etc, etc. She got pretty much sod all, and was not very happy about it!
 
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Yes, and that would be taken into consideration, for example it's not massivley uncommon for partner A to already have the morgage, partner B moves in and simply takes on the utility bills, shopping, hollidays etc.

But partner B would be able to evidence that, which is not the case here.

It happened like that when my dad remarried and then divorced - no children involved and it transpired that not only were no contributions to the household made by her, my dad could also evidence that he'd beein paying for hollidays, her car servicing, new tyres, etc, etc. She got pretty much sod all, and was not very happy about it!
OK so don't argue he'll get nothing then, fair?

OP is just sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong.

Also, why the hell are we even posting in this thread - this is like peak mum's net.
 
OK so don't argue he'll get nothing then, fair?

No. I'm merely stating facts, which are the court would look at the whole picture, so he could get nothing or he could get a percentage based on his contributions to the matrimonial home/marriage, which so far, appears to be approximatly zero.

OP is just sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong.

It's his sister, I think it's entirely correct to be concerned about her welfare, especially as she's sought his advice.
 
Rather than a marriage it just seems like your sister has taken the place of a mother looking after an idiot man child.

Divorce ASAP. No respect for his wife this man has.
 
OK so don't argue he'll get nothing then, fair?

OP is just sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong.

Also, why the hell are we even posting in this thread - this is like peak mum's net.

Except nobody replying here said he would get nothing. Just that given what we know, he would get not 50/50 as you had implied.

OP was confided in by his sister. So they are not sticking their oar in.

Maybe you should leave the thread then and stop making comments that are plainly wrong. Not only are they wrong it has been explained by multiple people they are wrong, yet you insist you are right. Now you are moving the goalposts with some straw man argument nobody made.
 
Regardless if this guy is going through a bad patch, or if he is in debt, he sounds like a selfish untrustworthy *******. He is treating his wife with with zero respect and clearly has no sense of decency.

Had two sisters and a very good friend go through this kind of crap with their husbands.

- Serious debts (gambling and or living well beyond their means)
- Not paying bills
- Pretending to go out to work but sneaking back in after the wife left to intercept mail from banks re debt/mortgage arrears etc

Each time the wife was far too trusting and ended up the ones lumbered with debt like a second mortgage with their names on them. In all cases they thought they were a few years from being mortgage free, yet their loser husbands had taken out second mortgages that were in arrears, or ran up huge credit card debts.

Tell your sister to get a credit rating and to have a frank discussion with her husband. Also seek legal advice. My guess is he will gaslight her and make it sound like she is the crazy unreasonable one.
 
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She keeps discussing this with me because she is hoping I can come up with some magic bullet to help.

Not a bargaining chip, he went through a little bad patch and it forced her to look in to the situation.

I guess it's the same as any big life problem - if you can't find an answer, it's not that there isn't an answer, its that you're avoiding the only answers that do exist, and I guess that's truth here. She has to really put her foot down over this, and I know full well that she won't.



His name isn't. It's all in her name. All the bills too. He has contributed nothing to repayment of the mortgage or the running of the house.

Well if i were you, i would certainly want to know the truth, so i would seek to figure this out, and i would begin spying on him.

I'd want to know the financials, so hardware keylogger on the computer, easy as your sister lives there so you can come when he is not home, easy.

After that, you stalk him and collect information over a few months.

You should atleast be able to figure things out.

That all being said, i think all roads lead to divorce, i cant think of a situation where things can be resolved and improved over time.

I mean i would be secretive sure, but i would pay towards things, regardless married or not.

He would at least need to pay towards something, to be redeemable.
 
Something very fishy going on... If nothing else she needs to check her credit records to check for any activity she's not aware of.

I makes zero sense for a husband who allegedly works full time to be both so guarded over his finances whilst also not contributing a penny towards the mortgage or utility bills or anything?
 
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