Yes. I can walk and respond to email or make and take phonecalls. Both a large part of my job.
Can you not walk and talk?
Huge reductions in foreign student numbers
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Yes. I can walk and respond to email or make and take phonecalls. Both a large part of my job.
Can you not walk and talk?
The same people trying to hit a promised stat in the face of legions of Romanian pikies turning up with no way to stop them.
The easy solution would be to stop the pikies and invite all the loaded students instead.
But we can't.
If badly implemented yes and that is worrying.
The problem is people registering on some BS course then disappearing. The issue certainly is foreign students attending legit undergrad/postgrad degree courses or years abroad at serious research led universities. This is what most people are picturing when reading 'student' thus the confused comments in here as to why the govt would try to crack down on student visas. And yes the cherry picked examples are very silly and shouldn't happen. Various universities simply monitor attendance at lectures and that should suffice.
They don't or don't care as its too much of a hassle.
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NHS spending on running is separate from training. High agency spending is due to poor nhs funding.
Limited medical training places are due to high cost of training and dont come from the same budget. A foreign person costs less to train as they pay more and leaves more money to train locals. The more foreign students accepted, generally the higher number of students a course can afford to take as long as it has sufficient facilities to train them. It is not a shortage of physical space, or lack of teachers that limits places but the sheer cost of training.
My university certainly did
Healthy young university students aren't going to put a significant strain on schools or hospitals. They're bringing money to this country.
They do care actually which is why they do it these days - specifically because it is their job now to ensure that foreign students here on visas are fulfilling the requirements of that visa through regular attendance. Universities not monitoring attendance (can be done with a register being passed around on a few occasions at tutorials/lectures and making sure compulsory coursework is handed in) could find themselves in a bit of trouble, especially if they end up with students breaching visa requirements etc...
Easily ignored i'm afraid to say.
Bizzare level of crossed wires that lumps foreign students into the "unwanted" category when they come here on a raft of cash backed either by rich parents or organisations who can fork out for it.
Found out more than I really wanted to know about levels of casual and ignorant racism and hate for foreigners in the uk this year.
Found out more than I really wanted to know about levels of casual and ignorant racism and hate for foreigners in the uk this year.
This is true.
I do have some insight into this, my main business in India involves immigration. In short we have contracts and agreements within the IT sector in the US, Canada, NZ ,Australia and the UK, and we also work with student immigration to the same countries.
From 2005 to 2012 the UK was India and Bangladesh's main 'destination' country, and in the span of 6 months it fell by almost 60%. Why?
1)Removal of post study visa right for foreign students (used to be 2 years)
2)Massive crack down on Universities who were not registering attendance properly of their students. (A number of students would apply for a course at a well known University in the UK, and obtain their visa on the back of it. They would then enrol at the University and then they would get poached by agents in the UK operating for the less mainstream Universities, who would offer them a degree etc for a slightly lower fee with extremely light/non existent attendance protocol. They would then switch courses)This made my life extremely hard at the time. During 2008 to 2011 a number of 'universities' were busted for offering such courses, and a number of 'students' were removed and deported back to their homes.
3)TOEFL was removed as a valid English proficiency examination for entering the UK in approximately 2013/2014. (Panorama busted the fraud that was happening with examinations and the British Immigration cancelled their agreement with ETS)
I am certainly not saying that EVERY student that comes from SE Asia is interested in 'scamming' the system, but even the most affluent and serious students look to settle in their destination country after they have finished their education. As a general rule of thumb *obviously there are exceptions* unless you operate your own business over here, you will never be affluent or wealthy. Its just the way it is....
The real movement of students from Asia is now to Australia. This cottage industry of agents poaching students and moving them to a dodgy University exists over there. When my team speak to students regarding study in Australia, aside from the course details etc, a lot of them are already thinking of the skill requirement list for Australia so they can apply for PR when they are over there.
In short, if the UK is only making itself attractive to the serious student then this is only a good thing.
The money comes from the same place. There's nothing to stop the government subsidising UK students which in the longer term would save the NHS...which is government funded remember...more money.
So if it's so obvious we 'are full' why are the Govt not looking to remove all the migrants (EU and non-EU) already here after we leave the EU?
Especially all the swathes of low skilled types working in our fields, factories, building sites etc.
That seems the simple solution to your obvious problem and would 'ease the pressure' and cure all the problems wouldn't it?
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Whether the government decides to subsidise more UK students to train in medicine or not should not affect the number of foreign students able to come as the the cost of training is the limiting factor in training medical students at the moment.
I dont understand how we can blame foreign students for 'taking up the places' of local students, especially so when it comes to medicine. The more post graduates we can get through university and into doctor training, the better regardless of where they are from, as our hospitals rely on those trainees.
The choice has never been between a local student or a domestic student.
I dont understand how we can blame foreign students for 'taking up the places' of local students, especially so when it comes to medicine. The more post graduates we can get through university and into doctor training, the better regardless of where they are from, as our hospitals rely on those trainees.
The choice has never been between a local student or a domestic student.
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As many as 100,000 foreign students a year are thought to be staying on in Britain illegally after completing academic courses here.
The students – believed to be mostly from the Indian sub-continent – come to Britain to attend universities and colleges, according to official immigration figures.
But the Government’s tracking system has failed to find evidence that they ever left the country.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-living-Britain-illegally.html#ixzz4ShpIfB1j
It's been a con to get immigrants into this country via university courses for years, great news that something is being done.
The students – believed to be mostly from the Indian sub-continent – come to Britain to attend universities and colleges, according to official immigration figures.
But the Government’s tracking system has failed to find evidence that they ever left the country.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-living-Britain-illegally.html#ixzz4ShpIfB1j
It's been a con to get immigrants into this country via university courses for years, great news that something is being done.
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It's not what YOU understand, it's what the government deem the voting public demand and it seems they don't want thousands of foreign students disappearing into God knows where in the UK when their visas run out, so the government is doing something about it. Thankfully. They have read the mood of their voters well
Probably riding the wonderful crest of nationalism thanks to Brexit.... Should have been tackled years ago.Because those low skilled foreign workers are cheap. This means the companies they work for make more profit. Now have a look who has interests in some of the largest construction companies in the UK. Also check out supermarkets and farming corporations.
Except as we've already established there are limited places on courses. You've stated it's due to lack of funding and that international students pay more ergo subsidise UK students and are therefore required. I'm pointing out how they're not.
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These people subsidise your children's learning.
I cant people hate foreigners so much so that they will deny all the benefits well educated children who bring considerable wealth with them to the UK and pay enough for them and your children to study expensive courses.
It is idiocy to reduce all student numbers, instead they need to target tracking system if there are migration problems, not legitimate students.
You are pointing out that they are not IF the government subsidise local student costs but they wont and limiting foreign student numbers will just make domestic student costs rise.
I would rather our work force was made up of hard working domestic and foreign educated people, where the lazy uneducated yobs of society have to compete or wither away, than take away the competition of skilled and educated foreigners so the local dregs of society can have a chance to live comfortably at the expense of the rest of society.
I cant people hate foreigners so much so that they will deny all the benefits well educated children who bring considerable wealth with them to the UK and pay enough for them and your children to study expensive courses.
It is idiocy to reduce all student numbers, instead they need to target tracking system if there are migration problems, not legitimate students.
You are pointing out that they are not IF the government subsidise local student costs but they wont and limiting foreign student numbers will just make domestic student costs rise.
I would rather our work force was made up of hard working domestic and foreign educated people, where the lazy uneducated yobs of society have to compete or wither away, than take away the competition of skilled and educated foreigners so the local dregs of society can have a chance to live comfortably at the expense of the rest of society.
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