"Hundreds" of Met Police armed response officers hand in the weapons after colleague charged with murder - Chris Kaba Shooting aftermath.

We also have a slightly controversial proposition that two highly trained (at public expense) servants of the law are not performing core duties and are thus wasted.
Brought back into the fold with some admonitions they can fulfil the roles that we have paid for. The original sentence was disproportionate.
 
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Stretch said:
Smells like BS to me.

If the police can search anyone in London for drugs and weapons on that basis they basically have carte-blanche
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Section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 allows police to do exactly that and they're not that infrequently authorised in places like London (S/60 authorisations are time and geography limited orders to deal with suspected disorder)


dowie said:
And of course that was lie:

But a whole load more time and taxpayer money gets wasted on it all because this guy can't accept any personal responsibility for his actions and instead uses this as a race-grift to get attention, sympathy etc.

The other one got a driving ban and 29 points on her license after failing to tell the police who was driving a tesla in another incident:

www.bbc.co.uk

Bianca Williams banned from driving and given 18 penalty points

The British sprinter said the six-month driving ban could dash her Olympic hopes.
www.bbc.co.uk


They. both sound like a complete nightmare but of course they'll still kick-off, it's someone else's fault never their own.
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It no very old but it reminds me yet again about the New Jersey Turnpike experiment

Which even still to date is one of the few attempts at investigating whether higher rates of adverse criminal justice encounters for 'black' people can be attributed to 'racial profiling' 'systemic racism' or whether they are better explained by differing behaviours of the groups stopped.


The New Jersey highway patrol were accused of being racists for stopping more blacks in traffic stops.... So a study was devised to test this accusation by measuring the speed of cars on a stretch of freeway (covertly) whilst also photographing the drivers of the cars concerned (again covertly).

A panel of people where then asked to try and establish the ethnicity of the drivers photographed but crucially, they didn't know what the recorded speed of the corresponding cars was and didn't know if the vehicle was exceeding the speed limit or not.

The results of the study showed that the drivers identified as black were speeding at noticeably higher rates when compared to the actual stop ratios for the police suggesting the police should be stopping more black drivers if they were acting on the basis of this offending activity alone whilst ignoring ethnicity!

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/27/nyregion/racial-study-of-speeders-is-released-in-new-jersey.html

The New Jersey turnpike test was a pretty good attempt at looking at the issue as it completely disentangled the driver's outward appearance from one very relevant aspect of behaviour likely to lead to a traffic stop (speeding)

Blacks may have been stopped disproportionally to whites in terms of their absolute population demographics in this test but less than this aspect of offending (speeding) would suggest should be the case.

I personally find if very telling that so little academic attention has been paid in the last 20+years (and decades before this test) to test the reasons actually why offending rates vary between groups and the degree to which this may be attributable to bias or subject behaviour.

For many people the disparity *is the evidence* of discrimination but then they have nothing sensible to say when it's pointed out to them that men consistently feature much higher than women in adverse criminal justice outcomes but yet there isn't many claiming this is driven primarily by sexism against men and/or for women. People just intuitively know that its primarily caused because men commit more crime, particularly violent and sexual crimes.
 
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the shadow said:
www.theguardian.com

Met police officer who shot Chris Kaba acquitted of murder

Martyn Blake shot Kaba, who was unarmed, in 2022, saying he feared Kaba would use car to kill officers
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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even that headline has a touch of the clickbait about it.
the officer was found not guilty, but the headline still says - Kaba who was unarmed................ unarmed except for the 1.5ton vehicle which the officer felt was endangering him or his colleagues. in this instance the car could be the weapon

of course some people will still insist they know better and say he was guilty. The fact that the jury was done so quickly would indicate that there was not much doubt in their minds.
 
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the officer was found not guilty, but the headline still says - Kaba who was unarmed................ unarmed except for the 1.5ton vehicle which the officer felt was endangering him or his colleagues. in this instance the car could be the weapon
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And the funny thing some publications were being a bit coy about in the reporting, the fact that the other accomplices were found guilty of their part in the shooting/attempted murder and the police were no longer looking for the murderer/gunman himself.... because:

The attempted murderer/gunman was none other than Chris Kaba, the very guy from this incident the next day!

What a massive waste of public resources, having a police officer's life put on hold for this whole time, causing stress for his family, and causing a load of issues within the police too among armed officers.

All because a black gangster did what black gangsters often do and then some BLM types got upset with the police because of the consequences.
 
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It reinforces the viewpoint that this was a show trial about appeasement rather than justice because, as usual, no one in the IOPC or CPS has the balls to make the right decision so just chose to pass the buck for fear of being criticised. Absolutely spineless.
 
Sounds like a good result, and good for the officer.

Surely a lot of the damage is already done though - imagine being a police officer and seeing how little the powers that be think of you that they'll throw you into a murder trial if they think they've got an excuse.
Makes me cringe as a member of the public to see what he's been put through.

The IOPC statement reads like they're rather bitter about the whole thing too, and implies they don't think his actions were reasonable in the circumstances. Interesting they think it's only of particular interest to 'black communities' too.

Statement following the acquittal of Sergeant Martyn Blake of the murder of Chris Kaba | Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC)

www.policeconduct.gov.uk www.policeconduct.gov.uk

The apparent likelihood that Kaba had actually attempted to murder someone with a gun days previously is just the cherry on top really.
www.standard.co.uk

Three gangsters jailed over Hackney dancefloor shooting

The dead gunman was a ‘core member’ of the 67 gang from Brixton Hill
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www.bbc.co.uk

Chris Kaba: Men accused of murder plot with Met shooting victim

Six men are accused of conspiring over a shooting with Chris Kaba, who was killed by police last year.
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"The firearm was never recovered and the alleged gunman, who cannot be identified, died before he could stand trial." :rolleyes:
 
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twitter is hilarious at the moment.

BLM people screaming murder, my favourite take so far is the police signed up for the job and should take being run over with a car as part of the deal…

Apparently they are gonna protest infront of the old Bailey about it…
 
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