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"Hundreds" of Met Police armed response officers hand in the weapons after colleague charged with murder - Chris Kaba Shooting aftermath.
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Soldato
I thought the IOPC statement, as worded on BBC, was extremely poor and very biased.Sounds like a good result, and good for the officer.
Surely a lot of the damage is already done though - imagine being a police officer and seeing how little the powers that be think of you that they'll throw you into a murder trial if they think they've got an excuse.
Makes me cringe as a member of the public to see what he's been put through.
The IOPC statement reads like they're rather bitter about the whole thing too, and implies they don't think his actions were reasonable in the circumstances. Interesting they think it's only of particular interest to 'black communities' too.
The apparent likelihood that Kaba had actually attempted to murder someone with a gun days previously is just the cherry on top really.
Three gangsters jailed over Hackney dancefloor shooting
The dead gunman was a ‘core member’ of the 67 gang from Brixton Hillwww.standard.co.uk
"The firearm was never recovered and the alleged gunman, who cannot be identified, died before he could stand trial."
Chris Kaba: Men accused of murder plot with Met shooting victim
Six men are accused of conspiring over a shooting with Chris Kaba, who was killed by police last year.www.bbc.co.uk
Given a NOT guilty verdict they didn’t really acknowledge how difficult and distressing the past few weeks had also been for the officer.
What about the officers family and friends?
That small snippet is hardly backing your own after a not guilty verdict.
Edit: Didn’t realise that link had already been posted.
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Caporegime
The IOPC are far from I. They're utterly politicised self-serving scum.
Shooting the tyres needs pretty good shooting accuracy, with high risk of ricochet in a packed street... nah, let's not do that.
Soldato
I guess they could, but I doubt it's an approved technique. Imagine there'd be a high risk of a bullet ricocheting off the road and hitting someone nearby. Also flat tyres don't necessarily immediately stop a car so wouldn't have removed the risk.
Why do people even bother joining the police at this point?
Probably part of some nutty plan to privatise policing and only having private security subsidised by the state for the benefit of the wealthy with some pitiful quango overseeing them.
Probably part of some nutty plan to privatise policing and only having private security subsidised by the state for the benefit of the wealthy with some pitiful quango overseeing them.
Caporegime
You're not being serious there, right?
As a demonstration, there's a "great" video I put in the spoiler below of an Audi RS6 evading a UK cop in Birmingham (IIRC) with at least 1 (possibly 2) flat tyres and still outrunning the police through a housing estate until they reverse into the cop car disabling it whilst the RS6 just drives away like nothing is wrong on its flat tyres.
As for the rest, it's more of a Hollywood trope than something thats trained for. In military terms, during a hard stop its more common to hit the engine with a few large calibre armour piercing bullets (.50 Cal API or similar usually) to try to stop the car quickly that way, rather than hitting a tyre, which pretty much negates the police being able to do something like that.
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Caporegime
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A good outcome, nobody (sensible) can accuse the police of getting away with murder if he's been acquitted based on facts and evidence.
They are becoming a parody.
Meanwhile, people are being JAILED for twitter posts. At the same time as convicts who committed actual crimes are being released due to overcrowded prisons.
None of which is down to the police - they enforce the law, up to the CPS to prosecute or not (usually not). Up to Politicians/justice system to release prisoners.
Caporegime
The police do the arresting and charging.
Yea i assumed it was something to do with ricochet tbh, but I know nothing about guns hence the question. I also assumed flat tyres, while not stopping the car, would have made it hard for it to ram other cars out of the way tbh.
Yes. It was an honest question (see above), are you against learning?
Caporegime
Sorry, my mistake. I just expect adults on a forum to have a basic grasp of physics beyond that of a primary school child. Apologies.
Man of Honour
Shot out tyres do not stop a vehicle. It's still a ton plus lethal kinetic weapon.
So you can explain then why it would ricochet instead of embed, should be easy for you. I'll wait.
Man of Honour
As for the verdict, the cop should never have been charged in the first place.