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He got what he deserved. Good riddance
"Hundreds" of Met Police armed response officers hand in the weapons after colleague charged with murder - Chris Kaba Shooting aftermath.
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I didn't want to sound that cynical/conspiratorial but equally that's the only legitmate explanation I can think of? That our media literally wants to stir up hatred/division within society and actively instigate protest/unrest because if generates headlines/attention, copy for them to feed off and allows them to push the polical agendas of those paying to run them?
Once you appreciate that's likely their intention how can we respond to that other than actively ignoring and disbelieving everything they say.....! Is our "free press" really so utterly toxic that it's nothing more than a vehicle for propaganda/profit!
Horrific and depressing to think that but could there honestly be any other explanation when you see how this case has been reported by news outlets?
When you type this kind of thing and have the 'likes' from the people who have read and somehow liked your words then some self-reflection is perhaps in order.
What you are saying is not true and we're way off topic - my fault, apologies - but do think about how you've arrived at this position.
I’ve arrived at that position because I can’t see any other reason for the press to report the story from the utterly unfounded “because widespread systemic institutional police racism” / “UKs George Floyd moment” angle they adopted until today despite clearly knowing the details/history of the man shot .
How else could you account for the way this story was covered by the media?
Even now after all the details are out they’re still covering the angle on BBC news at 10pm tonight that this happened due to Chris Kaba’s ethnicity ?
Why the continued push to promote this unfounded, divisive narrative on mainstream news when there’s literally no evidence to suggest it even after the police marksman has been found innocent by a jury?
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I don't think all our press or all news is like this.... but it is very clear to me that some reports are pretty obviously due to an agenda, be that a political angle or just to drum up clicks I would not like to say.
but the quality of a lot of the media in this country is in the toilet and it is getting worse imo
Years.ago it was just the likes of the Mail, the sun and the news of the world etc, but now even the guardian and the BBC are going downhill imo... and then we have the new ones like GBNews, the rise of social media and what not.
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Nothing of value lost, he and his family are a disgrace.
I hope the copper gets a payout because he's not going to be able to work again or live peacefully.
I hope the copper gets a payout because he's not going to be able to work again or live peacefully.
Well there were reporting restrictions so if you are a media company you can only stir the pot with what's in the public domain.
If you are emotionless then you can look at what's in the pot and decide that the most profitable way to get "engagement" is to work "this" angle.
Then when restrictions are off the more-correct story and different angles can be pushed.
It says something about the effectiveness of reporting restrictions that all this is news and couldn't possibly have influenced the jury.
If you are emotionless then you can look at what's in the pot and decide that the most profitable way to get "engagement" is to work "this" angle.
Then when restrictions are off the more-correct story and different angles can be pushed.
It says something about the effectiveness of reporting restrictions that all this is news and couldn't possibly have influenced the jury.
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Apparently the IOPC has yet to decide whether they will take disciplinary action against the officer, who has technically been suspended but will now be fully reinstated
I wonder what the decision will be...
Crazy how many campaigners etc are treating this verdict as an injustice, and how biased the supposedly balanced media outlets like the BBC are in reporting so much of what they say without rebuttal. What really gets me is how 'activists' talk about their 'communities', but never seem to be that interested in speaking out againstcriminals aspiring architects within their community like Chris who go around abusing women and shooting men in nightclubs. They talk about police bringing only pain and needing their own alternative systems, but skip over what exactly people like Chris brought to the community. They also completely fail to actually explain what makes them think it was wrong for the officer to conclude that Chris was a threat that night when he was trying to ram his way out of the police stop. It's all just slogans and politics for them.
Chris Kaba shooting: Police officer not guilty of murder
Martyn Blake is found not guilty of murdering Chris Kaba, who was shot on 5 September 2022.
www.bbc.co.uk
Crazy how many campaigners etc are treating this verdict as an injustice, and how biased the supposedly balanced media outlets like the BBC are in reporting so much of what they say without rebuttal. What really gets me is how 'activists' talk about their 'communities', but never seem to be that interested in speaking out against
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Soldato
Criminal scumbag gets what he deserved? Why was this even news?
Cos he wasn't allowed to be reported as a criminal scumbag until yesterday.
He was an unarmed black man who was about to be a father shot dead by police who are institutionally racist
This was the story for 2 years.Of course now restrictions are up he can be reported as having a criminal past since the age of 13, he abused the mother of his child til he was given a restraining order, and only two days before armed police boxed his car he was shooting another guy in a nightclub.
But for the sake of the jury not being biased, that was kept from the public for 2 years while the lie ridden story was being waved as a flag.
I'm part way through a book at the moment called "Is That Ture or Did You Hear It on the BBC", it's a bit based but does highlight this issue. It speaks a lot to the post earlier #580 and the narratives that are stirred up. They seem quite unapologetic about it.
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Apparently the IOPC has yet to decide whether they will take disciplinary action against the officer, who has technically been suspended but will now be fully reinstated
I wonder what the decision will be...Chris Kaba shooting: Police officer not guilty of murder
Martyn Blake is found not guilty of murdering Chris Kaba, who was shot on 5 September 2022.www.bbc.co.uk
The IOPC can force a police force to hold misconduct proceeding but they don't chair the hearing, which are now run by police chiefs (or in some cases their delegated representative).
And in this case I don't think the Met Police chief would be inclined to make adverse finding against the officer.
If anything BBC pandy to social media silos where racists accusations against police get inflamed (with contributions from abroad like for riots .. or mr putins bot band)
people/GenZ believe what they read on line - the Casey report somewhat baselined the institutionally racist terminology - with what justification ? (Dick resignation to boot)
people/GenZ believe what they read on line - the Casey report somewhat baselined the institutionally racist terminology - with what justification ? (Dick resignation to boot)
What an embarrasement of an organisation. They have clearly forgotten why they exist.
Cos he wasn't allowed to be reported as a criminal scumbag until yesterday.
He was an unarmed black man who was about to be a father shot dead by police who are institutionally racist
Of course now restrictions are up he can be reported as having a criminal past since the age of 13, he abused the mother of his child til he was given a restraining order, and only two days before armed police boxed his car he was shooting another guy in a nightclub.
But for the sake of the jury not being biased, that was kept from the public for 2 years while the lie ridden story was being waved as a flag.
Hold on. We can't report on his past criminal actions to avoid biasing the jury but then they talk about his "personal" life so they can bias them in the other direction
If we truly cared about not having bias in the Jury then he should be reported and treated as a John Doe for the duration of the trial.
I think that’s probably the answer. Its ironic that in order to avoid bias the media haven’t been allowed to report the fact that he’s a drug dealing gun toting career criminal gang thug but have been happily able to state that he’s a young black family man who murdered by racist police.
It’s the ultimate irony that in order to avoid “bias” in the court case the media have fed the public a constant stream of lies, spin and have presented an entirely one sided view of events!
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Really need these so called "Community Leaders" to take a long hard look at themselves if they are crying over someone that terrorised that same community :|
Chris Kaba verdict is traumatising, say black community leaders
Community leaders say London's black communities are traumatised over the Chris Kaba court case.
www.bbc.co.uk
It really is unbelievable. I’d be more shocked at members of their community getting shot up in nightclubs or OD’ing on drugs than the police doing their job.
I don’t take a hard right stance on much but criminals need to face appropriate consequences.
I'm just happy that the UKs George Floyd moment that his family was gunning for was nipped in the bud by reliving what a piece of scum he was, just like George Floyd, who the BLM grifters caused billions in damage and pain and misery for people who were affected by the riots who had nothing to do with it.
Good riddance
And to the family - take some ******* responsibility for the way you raised someone who was like this.
Good riddance
And to the family - take some ******* responsibility for the way you raised someone who was like this.
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Caporegime
Because his criminal background, and indeed his degree of general scumbaggery, is irrelevant to whether the Officer was justified in shooting him, and the media are under restrictions to avoid them biasing the outcome of the case by giving jurors irrelevant information that would not be admissible in court. Do you want the media poisoning the impartiality of the justice system?
The fact he was using his car to violently attack the Police seems to me to be justification enough for firing at him. He's not really unarmed if he's behind the wheel of a tonne+ vehicle and intent on ramming it repeatedly into the Police, is he?
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i agree with a lot of this.................... however the media were far from impartial. impartiality works both ways and it wasnt that they didnt list the scumbags crimes which wound me up, it was they peddled what a nice family man he was and strongly implied the police officer was at fault.
the story should have been along the lines of
"A man was shot and fatally wounded after a police car chase where he failed to stop, the vehicle was believed to have been involved in a nightclub shooting previously. The officer involved shooting happened after the car was trapped and the driver of the vehicle attempted to ram his way out of the police block.
The driver appears to have been unarmed however the officer claims they felt their or their colleagues lives were put at risk. An investigation is underway to see if it was a justified shooting or not, and the officer involved is currently suspended pending the investigation".
and that should have been it. none of the family stuff should have been in the media as it was just as tainting as putting the criminals background in there and names should have been kept out.
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