Sorry I should have left a link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpw5w8nl5ezo
Also, he pleaded guilty.
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"Hundreds" of Met Police armed response officers hand in the weapons after colleague charged with murder - Chris Kaba Shooting aftermath.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpw5w8nl5ezo
Also, he pleaded guilty.
No confirmed reporting on this yet so I would take it with a huge dose of salt.
If true it's disgraceful...
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Yes, I’ve read the articles.
I questioned whether he actually attacked the hotel, ie like the guys that tried to set fire to one of them.
All the people that got swift jail sentences pled guilty.
There was footage of him charging officers with shields.
To be honest, I think its going to be difficult for us regular public to confirm what he actually did, we dont have the same levels of resources or footage the police do.
He pled guilty to it, not really much more to say is there?
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The judge said in his sentencing he committed no violent acts.
He didn't just raise his hand and said "Fair cop guv, I did it", lots of stories of being very highly pressured by police to admit guilt, lying to them about they'll walk away with a slap on the wrist etc, they took advantage of his lack of knowledge of the justice system. And any provided solicitors will be on the police side.
The solicitors come in from independent law firms that have a contract to provide legal aid.
What did the stories tell you they were. Literal police employees?
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i am not on the side of the tosspots who were inciting violence.... however this is a little naive imo. I think it is quite plausible that people could be bullied, coerced or otherwise persuaded to take a plea deal.
mostly because "you are gonna go down for this but if you plead guilty we promise to take that into consideration in sentencing."
Not saying he wasnt guilty in this incident, but i do not believe everyone who takes a plea are necessarily guilty. (similar to getting out on parole..... am not certain but i think i am right in saying you have to admit guilt if you want to get let out early on parole.... which is an incredibly flawed system but i digress)
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CPS is underfunded and has a backlog of cases. Some cases take 2-3 months to even get passed over to the CPS. A few years ago someone would usually be charged within 48 hours of arrest. Now they have bailed, have bailback appointments 3 months or more onward they must attend where they are told whether it's no further action or if they will be charged.
The quote from today's BBC article is a cracker
Chris Kaba verdict is traumatising, say black community leaders
Community leaders say London's black communities are traumatised over the Chris Kaba court case.www.bbc.co.uk
Come on now ! Of course it changes things. This whole argument about it being an injustice is about an innocent man who was executed by the police and did nothing wrong. All of a sudden this is now turning into "man with previous criminal history of gang affiliation, who was wanted for attempted murder for a shooting incident in a nightclub, was shot whilst on the run from said offence. Furthermore, the gang he was affiliated with, now have a £10k bounty out on the police officer in revenge"
And this doesn't change how these community leaders view this? How is this "unhelpful". It's very helpful in setting the scene as the risks that police officers face every day in the line of duty. If you don't want to get shot by the police, don't get involved in gangs, don't get involved in guns, don't run from the police and especially don't try and run them over when stopped"
That's the message that the community leaders need to be telling todays youth - not preaching about the injustice of how he was killed.
It's ridiculous really but honestly I don't expect any better than utter clickbait like this from BBC News anymore.
Plus the term "Community Leaders" is suitably loaded and nebulus. Is there some kind of consensus amongst the views of "Black People" because they happen to share the same ethnicity? Isn't that insinuation in itself atually quite racist to assume that all black people have the same experience and values?
Are there also "Community Leaders" for other ethnic groups like the Asian community or the Hispanic Commnity? What about the "White Commnnity"? If so are they voted in by their peers or are they self appointed "Community Leaders"......
It's utter nonsense isn't it.....
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Again, this has already been passed over to the CPS - see this from the 15th of August
Horse, stable, door, bolted...
No thanks to the dishonest, woke media (who helped demonise the officer and pandered to the gangster's family & "community") lobbying hard for the name to be released in this case of course but at least future armed officers might be better protected:
No thanks to the dishonest, woke media (who helped demonise the officer and pandered to the gangster's family & "community") lobbying hard for the name to be released in this case of course but at least future armed officers might be better protected:
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The police need to make a statement, they need to hit this gang hard. Shut it down in every way to make it known cops are off the table for retribution otherwise we will have cops targeted like during the troubles in Northern Ireland
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Someone who has no idea about the UK criminal justice system and buys into conspiracy theories. Yes but if the CPS have a backlog of cases they have to put it on the conveyor belt until they've processed the older cases first. They probably should prioritise it with it being a case that is in the media. But is that fair to other victims who have been waiting longer?
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They are usually people who are considered well known in their communities and have strong ties to it so they can be a go between from the community to the police. Its supposed to allow them to communicate and make everyones lives easier. From what little I have seen of them though they are basically people who have a massive chip on their shoulders and have been given waaaay too much input into police matters.
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oh crap.... was that a recent outburst after the details of the incident were released and the copper was found not guilty............. or was that right after the initial incident.
if it is the former she needs a proverbial head wobble given an innocent man is now in hiding from a contract on his head put out by a criminal gang....... if it is the latter then it was still a poor statement to make (innocent until proven guilty should be a thing for the police as well) but is slightly less infuriating than if she said it now!.
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No ones going to risk doing a 20 stretch for 10,000 squid IMO I reckon the Sun made that up.
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It's always the case with particular groups to come together when one of thier own has been killed by an outsider but when it's black on black or gang on gang where someone is shot or stabbed to death everyone stays and home and keeps quiet.The quote from today's BBC article is a cracker
Chris Kaba verdict is traumatising, say black community leaders
Community leaders say London's black communities are traumatised over the Chris Kaba court case.www.bbc.co.uk
You see this phenomenon across the world, Israel drops a bomb in Gaza taking out some psycho terrorist and it's time for intifadas, days of rage and jihad to be declare but if Syria gases it's own people then mums the word.
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