"Hundreds" of Met Police armed response officers hand in the weapons after colleague charged with murder - Chris Kaba Shooting aftermath.

ColdAsIce said:
Really need these so called "Community Leaders" to take a long hard look at themselves if they are crying over someone that terrorised that same community :|

www.bbc.co.uk

Chris Kaba verdict is traumatising, say black community leaders

Community leaders say London's black communities are traumatised over the Chris Kaba court case.
www.bbc.co.uk
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London 2021 homicide figures

Males
77% of victims, 96% of identified suspects.

Teenagers and in their 20's
45% of victims, 73% of identified suspects

Blacks
42% of victims (55 deaths) and 58% of identified suspects.

13.5% of London population.

But let assume that all of the 'mixed' and 'others' would be classed as 'black' aswell. So another 5.7 and 6.3% so even them it's 25.5%.

But the problems the handful of people killed in interactions with the police, almost all of whom were violently resisting apprehension at the time apparently.



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Ethnic groups in London - Wikipedia

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Mint8 said:
The issue for me is why have the media clearly got an agenda which painted this guy as an innocent unfortunate victim of the racist police - for months despite I am sure having a pretty good idea about his criminal background.

Not the first time our supposedly impartial media has painted a deliberatly incorrect picture of a situation to fit a narrative rather than actually reporting the truth.
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Mr Jack said:
Because his criminal background, and indeed his degree of general scumbaggery, is irrelevant to whether the Officer was justified in shooting him, and the media are under restrictions to avoid them biasing the outcome of the case by giving jurors irrelevant information that would not be admissible in court. Do you want the media poisoning the impartiality of the justice system?
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I think you're missing the point - you seem to be addressing a rather different argument of say "why didn't the media release details of his previous offences".

But the other poster didn't argue that, he's arguing about the way the chose to act - indeed similar criticism can be leveled at some politicians too including the Mayor of London.

They even petitioned the court, successfully, to get the police officer's name released causing him to have to go into hiding as there are now reports that the gang put out a reward for killing him.
 
Apparently the jury attached a statement with their verdict (according to one reporter it was critical of the CPS and IOPC for even bringing the prosecution). The judge, the same guy who ruled to release the police officer's name (and the same judge as the Lucy Letby trial) refused to have it read or indeed hasn't allowed it to be released to the media subsequently.

This same judge also apparently didn't lift the reporting restrictions re: Kabas criminal past until he day after the verdict.

 
JonRGV250 said:
All this does make me wonder what sort of shenanigans are going to happen when (if) the Manchester airport scrotes are charged, or whether the outcome may change to the leaked footage.
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Will they ever get charged, the police in Manchester handed the file to the CPS months ago IIRC.

It seems like the woke types at the CPS are more than happy to throw the book at a police officer literally just doing his job - to the point where the jury not only reached a verdict very quickly but also felt compelled to write a note about it. And yet when a female police officer is assaulted/given a bloody nose, on camera by some thugs who happen to be brown Muslims then the CPS seems very timid and people start pandering to the "community" etc.
 
There are far too many people who trade on race politics and race baiting. There are almost zero repercussions to it when you are on the "right side" of it and talking utter crap. I watched a show a while back following the police and investigations into police conduct when it came to interactions with minorities and it was utterly shocking.

I have no doubt there are racist elements in the police but the most shocking part was the behaviour of the "community leaders" who the police liaise with on policing in the community. They were racist and prejudiced to the extreme. they seemingly could not see any incident involving a minority that was not the polices fault. Where the police could not have avoided the problem in some way. Seemingly the best way to avoid it was just to let the scumbags get on with whatever they were doing. These are community leaders. Apparently people who communities look up to for guidance and wisdom and representation and they were basically "**** the police" in a more polite package.

The police are damned if they do, damned if they don't. People are far more concerned about an utter scumbag getting what he deserved than they are about police officers lives. I'm sure they will spend another fortune investigating this because certain people didn't get the outcome they wanted.

Seems to be how it works.

"We don't see any issue in the police officers conduct"
"OK, try again"
"We still don't see a problem"
"OK, well lets keep asking different bodies until one agrees with us"
 
Zatoichi.uK said:
It's an absolute disgrace that those two haven't been charged still.
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JonRGV250 said:
Yup, then there’s Ricky Jones who’s now out on bail.
Let’s see what he gets when others were jailed for far far less..

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I don't know what the hell is going on with the justice system in this country, the whole thing just seems arse-backwards, permanent opposite day, it's high time Judges are investigated and held accountable for their actions and there needs to be a robust process to remove bad judges.
 
The quote from today's BBC article is a cracker

www.bbc.co.uk

Chris Kaba verdict is traumatising, say black community leaders

Community leaders say London's black communities are traumatised over the Chris Kaba court case.
www.bbc.co.uk

After reporting restrictions on Mr Kaba's background were lifted, it was revealed he was named as the gunman in a nightclub shooting in Hackney, east London, about a week before he died.

Police officers did not know who was driving the Audi Mr Kaba was in on the night he died, but they did know it had been used as a getaway car in another shooting in Brixton, south London, the day before.

An automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) marker had been placed on the car, which alerted the police to it.

Asked whether news of Mr Kaba’s background might change how the community feels, Mr King said that way of thinking “is not helpful at this moment”.
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Come on now ! Of course it changes things. This whole argument about it being an injustice is about an innocent man who was executed by the police and did nothing wrong. All of a sudden this is now turning into "man with previous criminal history of gang affiliation, who was wanted for attempted murder for a shooting incident in a nightclub, was shot whilst on the run from said offence. Furthermore, the gang he was affiliated with, now have a £10k bounty out on the police officer in revenge"

And this doesn't change how these community leaders view this? How is this "unhelpful". It's very helpful in setting the scene as the risks that police officers face every day in the line of duty. If you don't want to get shot by the police, don't get involved in gangs, don't get involved in guns, don't run from the police and especially don't try and run them over when stopped"

That's the message that the community leaders need to be telling todays youth - not preaching about the injustice of how he was killed.
 
robgmun said:
I don't know what the hell is going on with the justice system in this country, the whole thing just seems arse-backwards, permanent opposite day, it's high time Judges are investigated and held accountable for their actions and there needs to be a robust process to remove bad judges.
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This poor guy got banged up for nearly 3 years for hurty words and a placard, then committed suicide a few days ago whilst in prison..


Utterly insane.
 
JonRGV250 said:
This poor guy got banged up for nearly 3 years for hurty words and a placard
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Thats not necessarily true now is it.

He was a part of a riot gang that attacked hotels, got caught on numerous police camera's charging at police shields.
He was a risk to the public, hence jail time.

As for some of the others mentioned in this thread and their lack of jail time, disgusting.
 
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