Hungarian Grand Prix 2014, Hungaroring Race - 11/19

Pigeon_Killer said:
This year tells a different story and Hamilton's the one having the bad luck but I'm not seeing one amazing driver vs an average one.
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Rosberg hasn't touched him all things being equal. I don't think you are seeing an amazing versus average either. The car advantage is so huge it's hard for anyone to take major points from them if one of them has a bad time. I think if cars could split them more often the gap between them would be larger especially if they had to pass cars more often in rosbergs case. He's better than rosberg but where alonso has gotten better since being paired with Hamilton I don't think Hamilton has as much.
 
Setroc said:
I'm sure I remember a time when smr was a reasonable and moderate poster on these forums. And then a couple less reasonable posters came along which made smr go slightly mad, and things have been pretty grim here ever since.
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I'm not the one who thinks Mercedes are boycotting Lewis' World Championship chances in favour of Rosberg... plenty of "mad" views on here if you ask me.

And I get called delusional for saying it how it is!
 
smr said:
This forum is just full of too many teenage boys in love with Lewis Hamilton and hate Jenson Button because he's the only team mate that's beaten their hero. Therefore lots of love for Lewis, lots of hate for Jenson and then you get a few Alonso, Kimi etc. fans thrown in. Simples.
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Yeah, simples...

:rolleyes:
 
dannyjo22 said:
So as long as I know you subscribe to double standards that's cool. No use whinging about Rosberg being the top boy when you are happy when he was at mclaren. I don't think it has anything to do with nationality, just how the driver endears himself to the team. Hamilton has done that badly at merc. Alonso could have been at mclaren but he was an idiot.
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Who said I was whinging, if fact where am I whinging? I'm making a clear and concise point in that I think Rosberg is the preferred driver at Merc. If that's classed and whinging then those who view it that way need to take a step back and reason with themselves. And your wrong about double standards.

I didn't say Rosberg was clever, I think he's played the team game better than Hamilton. I also think he's average and many people here think button is too, that's two average drivers that have gotten under his skin.
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Well wouldn't an average driver get under your skin if you knew you were better?
 
smr said:
This forum is just full of too many teenage boys in love with Lewis Hamilton and hate Jenson Button because he's the only team mate that's beaten their hero. Therefore lots of love for Lewis, lots of hate for Jenson and then you get a few Alonso, Kimi etc. fans thrown in. Simples.
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Never change :p
 
Ryan-3 said:
I really like Jenson, but he's going to have to call it a day soon as he no longer has the edge - and hasn't had it for a while - that made him good, as shown by the performance in Hungary.
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Not really surprising in a car thats been substantially worse than even the awful ferrari for the past two seasons

Mclaren completely ballsed up Hungary, and while a podium might have been difficult JB should have been leading the race for his whole 2nd stint and should have got 4th/5th with ease
 
smr said:
This forum is just full of too many teenage boys in love with Lewis Hamilton and hate Jenson Button because he's the only team mate that's beaten their hero. Therefore lots of love for Lewis, lots of hate for Jenson and then you get a few Alonso, Kimi etc. fans thrown in. Simples.
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I'd call them failed football supporters who don't have a clue about F1...
 
FrankJH said:
Not really surprising in a car thats been substantially worse than even the awful ferrari for the past two seasons

Mclaren completely ballsed up Hungary, and while a podium might have been difficult JB should have been leading the race for his whole 2nd stint and should have got 4th/5th with ease
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As his intermediate tyres overheated it messed things up, but if he'd been on slicks then it might have been different but the car isn't really capable of a 5th place anyway...
 
I definitely get the feeling that Mclaren are too reliant on crunching numbers and data though, there needs to be more of a human element in the decision making progress - I'd be fascinated to see what all of the teams radars looked like in comparison to one another.
 
smr said:
I definitely get the feeling that Mclaren are too reliant on crunching numbers and data though, there needs to be more of a human element in the decision making progress - I'd be fascinated to see what all of the teams radars looked like in comparison to one another.
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They have been like that for the past 5/6 years, armchair experts are frequently criticised often correctly for making judgements without having all the data the teams have but consistently over the past years those fans sat at home have been making better decisions faster then mclarens room of scientists. Even here we have had fans with nothing more then a laggy half broken live timing page calling out poor strategies and pit decisions.
 
smr said:
I definitely get the feeling that Mclaren are too reliant on crunching numbers and data though, there needs to be more of a human element in the decision making progress
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It's got to be more than a feeling now, they must have a monkey locked in a dark room on a different continent, infront of a hundred screens with a scientific calculator at hand calling the shots.
 
dalin80 said:
They have been like that for the past 5/6 years, armchair experts are frequently criticised often correctly for making judgements without having all the data the teams have but consistently over the past years those fans sat at home have been making better decisions faster then mclarens room of scientists. Even here we have had fans with nothing more then a laggy half broken live timing page calling out poor strategies and pit decisions.
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Mclaren gambled and lost. They are so far down the field they pinned their hopes not on a fast car/driver, but that the conditions would change in their favour, and they would capitalise. Instead of dealing with the conditions as they were, they tried to deal with the conditions as they hoped they would become.

You've got to be on the right tyres for the conditions, or you end up rolling around seconds slower than the rest of the field and having to come in for more pit stops.

Sure, every now and again you can roll the dice and get lucky, but in general luck won't win you the race - if you're not fast enough, you can't win, even with a good strategy.

Look at Rosberg. His strategy was good, he started from pole and his car is the pick of the field, but he just wasn't fast enough when he needed to be.

We had something similar a few years back when Rubens Barichello was complaining about how the team failed him in the race, and Ross Brawn quite publicly slapped him down by showing how he wasn't fast enough in any single lap.
 
Just caught up with watching the race. What a great drive from Alonso, Ric and Lewis. Ric proving that he has what it takes to be one of the top drivers, Lewis doing well from his start, and Alonso just showing how much of a boss he is.
 
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