Caporegime
Bottas only locks up after Vettel destroys his front wing. Not much reason to think he'd have failed to make the corner otherwise.
Poll: Hungarian Grand Prix 2018, Budapest - Race 12/21
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Bottas only locks up after Vettel destroys his front wing. Not much reason to think he'd have failed to make the corner otherwise.
Caporegime
Oh year, I agree on that. Vettel has the position, all he needed to do was hold a wider line and he'd have been well ahead after the sequence of corners. Hitting Bottas was not only clumsy, it was also foolish. On another day he could easily have destroyed his rear tyre and lost 3 or 4 or even more positions as he struggled back to the pits.
Could easily have been a DNF
Man of Honour
Some did..
Soldato
I would like to see an on board from Bottas but you can't go sticking your nose into the corner without the potential for an overtake, that's asking for an accident and why he got reprimanded.
Man of Honour
He didn't get a reprimand tho.
Soldato
He got a 10 secs penalty didn't he? Or was that for the Ricardo contact?
Soldato
I'm struggling to understand how the race got such good ratings of 4/5/6. It was terrible! The only interesting thing at all was Ricciardo coming through the field and the cumulative 10 seconds of action at the end. I thought I was being kind by giving it a three.
My opinion on the Vettel/Bottas matter was the move was done, and as such it was Bottas who tried a desperate move on the inside in the hope that Vettel would leave room. I can see the argument from the other side too, but there's no way Bottas could have repassed Vettel in that way on that corner without contact.
It was an aggressive move by Vettel, and silly not to leave some more room, but the move by Bottas was out of desperation, clumsy and was never going to come off.
Those saying Bottas just understeered into Ricciardo are ignoring the fact that he could have just braked earlier. He had three laps to understand how much understeer he had, and should have reacted accordingly.
I like Bottas, and think he's generally had a good but unlucky season, but he went from a superb defensive drive with no mistakes to a bit desperate yesterday. He was lucky to finish fifth.
My opinion on the Vettel/Bottas matter was the move was done, and as such it was Bottas who tried a desperate move on the inside in the hope that Vettel would leave room. I can see the argument from the other side too, but there's no way Bottas could have repassed Vettel in that way on that corner without contact.
It was an aggressive move by Vettel, and silly not to leave some more room, but the move by Bottas was out of desperation, clumsy and was never going to come off.
Those saying Bottas just understeered into Ricciardo are ignoring the fact that he could have just braked earlier. He had three laps to understand how much understeer he had, and should have reacted accordingly.
I like Bottas, and think he's generally had a good but unlucky season, but he went from a superb defensive drive with no mistakes to a bit desperate yesterday. He was lucky to finish fifth.
Soldato
For the contact with Ricardo http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...p-bottas-penalised-for-daniel-ricciardo-clash
Caporegime
That was for the Riccardo contact. Vettel crashing into Bottas was ruled a racing incident.
Soldato
Ok thanks, both
Caporegime
Strategy was varied and interesting. There was passing for position at the top. There wasn't a huge amount of track battle, but there was a lot going on, and it was interesting from a more cerebral viewpoint. Decent race, imo.
What move from Bottas? He holds his position into the corner - as he's completely entitled to do - and Vettel drives over his front wing. You're supposed to actually pass another car before pulling into their space; Vettel didn't bother.
Exactly. His car was damaged but that doesn't excuse sliding into another driver like that. It wasn't like it was the first corner he was missing his wing and it caught him by surprise.
LOL......Would you blame Bottas for the crash in France? Guess you also blame Lewis for the crash with Kimi at Silverstone.....
4 , 5 and 6 is not good!?
I rated it a 5. It wasn't completely empty of interest. The tyre strategy was interesting due to the wet qualifying and stuff did happen (Vettel almost ending his race again, Bottas getting silly with Ric etc).
It wasn't great by any means but it was easily a fairly average F1 race.
Caporegime
They so need to bin the same-tyres rule. All is does is force the front runners onto boring identical strategies.
Caporegime
These are not comparable events.
Well yes they are, so Bottas drove over Seb's front win in France right?
Caporegime
No. Vettel locked up and crashed into the back of Bottas in France. Here, Vettel collided with Bottas who was still alongside him. Not the same thing. Even Vettel understood this since he apologised to Bottas for France.
So Bottas locking up and hitting Vettel is different?