I don't understand the negativity towards Prius

50MPG....... Wow!!!!!!!!

So it's not really improved in the 15 odd years since the Gen 2.

Tech demo my ***. Now the Insight on the other hand :p
 
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-Ad- said:
50MPG....... Wow!!!!!!!!

So it's not really improved in the 15 odd years since the Gen 2.

Tech demo my ***. Now the Insight on the other hand :p
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50mpg if in town is good. But combined it's not that great by modern standards, even some petrol cars are doing that now.
 
Nasher said:
50mpg if in town is good. But combined it's not that great by modern standards, even some petrol cars are doing that now.
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Are we talking book figures or real world ones?

My petrol c class had a book figure of 50.8mpg for combined, in reality, it would be 30-32 in mixed driving and as a long term average, with 42-45mpg on a long run.

I changed to an hyundai ioniq hybrid (not plug in) just coming up to 2 months ago, and after the first 1200 miles doing the same commute etc that would get me 30mpg in the merc, am achieving 64mpg, which is massively different. I haven't done any long runs (100 miles plus) yet, so don't know what I will get, but general view is 70+ is easily achievable. (the ioniq, unlike the prius, can do electric only at motorway speeds, although by the book its a bit less efficient in town).
 
My 50.9mpg is as I said mainly London suburban rat routes so a lot of stop starting with traffic in areas involved and I like to drive with a purpose so mainly flooring it up to 30mph or so quickly. I think that's really good. If I was on long motorway stretches then I could probably get around 70mpg
 
Dolph said:
Are we talking book figures or real world ones?

My petrol c class had a book figure of 50.8mpg for combined, in reality, it would be 30-32 in mixed driving and as a long term average, with 42-45mpg on a long run.

I changed to an hyundai ioniq hybrid (not plug in) just coming up to 2 months ago, and after the first 1200 miles doing the same commute etc that would get me 30mpg in the merc, am achieving 64mpg, which is massively different. I haven't done any long runs (100 miles plus) yet, so don't know what I will get, but general view is 70+ is easily achievable. (the ioniq, unlike the prius, can do electric only at motorway speeds, although by the book its a bit less efficient in town).
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I used to get 40mpg in a Fiesta ST and the official figure is 47. On the motorway it would get over 50.

The problem with these hybrids is at higher speeds they get way less efficient. I doubt it will get near 70mpg really.
 
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I used to get 40mpg in a Fiesta ST and the official figure is 47. On the motorway it would get over 50.

The problem with these hybrids is at higher speeds they get way less efficient. I doubt it will get near 70mpg really.
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I've got a long trip planned next week, will confirm with a pic whatever it is :)
 
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I don't believe 70mpg for a second. Dad is on his second Auris Hybrid, he's never seen more than 48mpg on a run at the legal limit.
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One of my drivers has got one as a courtesy car at the moment reckons hes got over 70mpg. And is seriously considering one over his usual Mondeo. hes using £20 in fuel a night instead of his usual £30-35
 
I'm sure I'd be able to beat my Dad's figures, but I'd be surprised with much over 50mpg once his new Auris is properly run in.

Me, I'll be eco friendly by not wasting Co2 manufacturing a new car to replace a perfectly good 13 year old Diesel that does 55+mpg on sticky tyres...
 
petrol hybrids don't do well at high speeds on long motorway journeys. that is where you would want a diesel or a diesel hybrid.

petrol hybrids are city cars.

it would be like seeing if a diesel does good mpg in rush hour traffic where it moves 5 miles in an hour. they weren't built for that purpose.
 
I was considering getting a Golf GTE bit apparently VW have stopped taking orders for them. The reason why I like the GTE is because it looks like normal car slot of hybrids and more so all electric vehicles are purpose made and have designs that frankly should have been left on the design table.

I must admit I do make fun of Nissian Leaf drivers driving there overpriced milk floats hoping they don't run out current before they reach the charging point.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
petrol hybrids don't do well at high speeds on long motorway journeys. that is where you would want a diesel or a diesel hybrid.

petrol hybrids are city cars.

it would be like seeing if a diesel does good mpg in rush hour traffic where it moves 5 miles in an hour. they weren't built for that purpose.
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where did you get that statement from?

we regularly do trips from bidford to Watford and get between 65 and 72mpg on the dash, real world take 3mpg off that.
 
As with any thread that dares to mention fuel economy I see we've ended up with plenty of "LOL my *insert older, cheaper car* used to do *insert unlikely MPG* so nothing has changed since the model T" posts. As we all know unless the two cars are driving the same route at the same time at the same speed the comparisons are irrelevant.

I've asked work if I can get a hybrid as my next company car to try and get the BIK down. I've currently ended up with the company run around which is way past due being sent on its way so I have the great combo of high BIK and fuel economy low enough that means with the HMRC recommended rates it costs me to drive for work :rolleyes:

The problem is I need an estate for work use which as far as I can see leaves me (within budget at least) with an Auris or... well, an Auris.
 
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