lol, Microsoft.
I HAVE PROOF THAT WITH WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE IS CRAP
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lol, Microsoft.
but some people have also posted that after updating their bios windows 10 remained activate
I have not read this whole 9 pages but there seems to be a whole bunch of misinformation, Basically it all comes down to the type of windows you upgraded from.
If you upgraded from an OEM version of windows then this carries the same rights as previous versions of OEM windows 7/8.1 ie it is tied to the original machine windows was loaded onto and if it significantly changes (motherboard constitutes a new pc in MS eyes) then yes you will have to buy a new copy of windows.
If you upgraded from a full Retail version of windows, this carry's all the same rights as previous retail versions of windows so therefore you have every right to transfer this to a new pc or indeed a pc that has undergone significant hardware changes (ie motherboard).
I know this because i have actually done it, i just upgraded to a x99 system after activating windows on my old 2500k system.
You have to call Microsoft up and as long as you have a valid retail key for windows 7 or windows 8/8.1 then they will generate you a new retail key for windows 10 and provide this to you.
I'm now happy as i have a proper windows 10 retail key rather then the free upgrade with no proper key.
If you upgraded from an OEM version of windows then this carries the same rights as previous versions of OEM windows 7/8.1 ie it is tied to the original machine windows was loaded onto and if it significantly changes (motherboard constitutes a new pc in MS eyes) then yes you will have to buy a new copy of windows.
If you upgraded from a full Retail version of windows, this carry's all the same rights as previous retail versions of windows so therefore you have every right to transfer this to a new pc or indeed a pc that has undergone significant hardware changes (ie motherboard).
I know this because i have actually done it, i just upgraded to a x99 system after activating windows on my old 2500k system.
You have to call Microsoft up and as long as you have a valid retail key for windows 7 or windows 8/8.1 then they will generate you a new retail key for windows 10 and provide this to you.
I'm now happy as i have a proper windows 10 retail key rather then the free upgrade with no proper key.
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I had updated the laptop bios over the weekend for some fixes and Windows 10 remained activated.
Thanks for clarifying. Did you just skip the key entry and we then given a number to ring when installed?
This still? Jesus 
Other conversations with ms tech support has said the complete opposite, it may come up with the need to reactivate windows and throw out an error code but that's a bug that's being looked into. One such solution is to skip the screens during the install, login a different ms authenticated account, then re-input the main account linked to the key. Or you can just wait for the issue to be resolved by itself (if you even get it)
Your a rep for a vendor but your constant posts about this and other windows 10 issues come across as an angry 13 year old who's had his internet taken away for not doing the chores. it's been said a million times that the livechat support is, at best, used for basic questions.
Other conversations with ms tech support has said the complete opposite, it may come up with the need to reactivate windows and throw out an error code but that's a bug that's being looked into. One such solution is to skip the screens during the install, login a different ms authenticated account, then re-input the main account linked to the key. Or you can just wait for the issue to be resolved by itself (if you even get it)
Your a rep for a vendor but your constant posts about this and other windows 10 issues come across as an angry 13 year old who's had his internet taken away for not doing the chores. it's been said a million times that the livechat support is, at best, used for basic questions.
That is interesting and the first time I have heard of someone getting a real Windows 10 key. Was it a painful process or did they give it up quite easily?
so what number did u call? and what did u say to them?
some people as already called the activation support and they wouldn't give much help...
A friend of mine contact them last 3 days and he basically said it useless. The MS contact said we cant give you a valid key because that would be like i quote "You taking money out of our pocket". My friend what speechless what a odd thing to say to a customer.
They offered to give him a new key for a bargin price of (no longer free) but...... $40.
Completely painless, I clearly explained what i had done to first line support they then passed me over to technical support who once they verified I had a valid RETAIL (RETAIL being the key word here) windows 8 pro key they then generated me a brand new RETAIL windows 10 pro key.
I don't know what's going on with everyone else but if read the terms of conditions on windows 10 it even says you can transfer a retail copy to another machine.
That is why retail copies cost more.
Its even been confirmed by MS MVPs and forum mods over on official Microsoft forums which you can google easy enough.
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i just contacted MS and they said they do generate you a proper retail key for windows 10 but only for users that can't get windows 10 activated for the first time after upgraded. so i said i upgraded from a retail license so if i wanted to upgrade my hardware i should able to and still have win10 and he said yes but i'd have to reinstall win8.1 then upgrade to win10, i said that's ok to that within the first year but after the year it can't be done. then he said we won't generate a proper retail key for windows 10 without very good reason, so i said this is a very good reason, that i from a retail license and wanting to upgrade my hardware anytime without needing to reinstall win8.1, and i said you should read the EULA, it clearly states if you've upgraded a stand-alone OS = retail u are able to transfer, and he said where does it say that, so i then showed him it, then guess what! he cut me off
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i just contacted MS and they said they do generate you a proper retail key for windows 10 but only for users that can't get windows 10 activated for the first time after upgraded. so i said i upgraded from a retail license so if i wanted to upgrade my hardware i should able to and still have win10 and he said yes but i'd have to reinstall win8.1 then upgrade to win10, i said that's ok to that within the first year but after the year it can't be done. then he said we won't generate a proper retail key for windows 10 without very good reason, so i said this is a very good reason, that i from a retail license and wanting to upgrade my hardware anytime without needing to reinstall win8.1, and i said you should read the EULA, it clearly states if you've upgraded a stand-alone OS = retail u are able to transfer, and he said where does it say that, so i then showed him it, then guess what! he cut me off
Yeah had that too in the past. Do a lot of business with MS with my Work and technical support. If you are unlucky enough to get through to one of their "subsidary partners" then you will be shocked how bad they can be.
One tatic is make you go through the while thing again to hang up on you. If you got the case reference report them specifying what time and date and they will get them pulled up.
From my searches all I have seen are many people asking the same question and several of those being told to reinstall 7/8 first.
But it is good to hear you have had success and so there is hope. I plan to upgrade at a later time during the 1 year offer. I also have a full Pro retail key.
i just contacted MS and they said they do generate you a proper retail key for windows 10 but only for users that can't get windows 10 activated for the first time after upgraded. so i said i upgraded from a retail license so if i wanted to upgrade my hardware i should able to and still have win10 and he said yes but i'd have to reinstall win8.1 then upgrade to win10, i said that's ok to that within the first year but after the year it can't be done. then he said we won't generate a proper retail key for windows 10 without very good reason, so i said this is a very good reason, that i from a retail license and wanting to upgrade my hardware anytime without needing to reinstall win8.1, and i said you should read the EULA, it clearly states if you've upgraded a stand-alone OS = retail u are able to transfer, and he said where does it say that, so i then showed him it, then guess what! he cut me off
I can sort of understand there reluctance in your case, Id be very surprised if they did hand you out a key before you have actually upgraded your machine and hit a activation problem. I carried out the hardware upgrade to x99, hit the activation problem as i knew i would then contacted Microsoft, i think the only way they can resolve that is to generate you a new windows 10 key and as a holder of a valid retail copy of windows they should do it for you.
The tech support guy remote connected to my machine to install the new key but before he disconnected, he made a .txt file and pasted the key in there for me and specifically said "here is your new key for future use should you need it"
maybe i just got extremely lucky and got a great support tech.
read this post on Microsofts forums.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/can-i-reinstall-windows-10-once-i-upgrade/c50ad32d-08a5-4273-a941-c353e43a5056?page=4&auth=1
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I have seen that one previously. It is quite and old thread from before Windows 10 was released. The very last post refers you onto this thread:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a?tm=1434646337185
Which states:
Q: What happens if I change the hardware configuration of my Windows 10 device?
A: If the hardware configuration of your Windows 10 device changes significantly (e.g. motherboard change) Windows may require re-activation on the device. This is the same experience as prior versions of Windows (e.g. Windows 7 and Windows 8.1). The free upgrade offer will not apply to activation of Windows 10 in such scenarios where hardware changes reset Activation.
Which is why I was surprised to hear you got a new key.A: If the hardware configuration of your Windows 10 device changes significantly (e.g. motherboard change) Windows may require re-activation on the device. This is the same experience as prior versions of Windows (e.g. Windows 7 and Windows 8.1). The free upgrade offer will not apply to activation of Windows 10 in such scenarios where hardware changes reset Activation.
My Windows 10 is activated on the new motherboard.
It wasn't yesterday, but I then put the old mobo back in. It showed activated, as it should with the original hardware. I took the old mobo out, put the new one in again.
Still thinking it wasn't activated, I just called MS only to feel stupid when it showed activated.
What a puzzler. Whether this had anything to do with cycling the old boards, or it was just a coincidence, I don't know. There was no point asking the MS guy because English was hard for him.
It wasn't yesterday, but I then put the old mobo back in. It showed activated, as it should with the original hardware. I took the old mobo out, put the new one in again.
Still thinking it wasn't activated, I just called MS only to feel stupid when it showed activated.
What a puzzler. Whether this had anything to do with cycling the old boards, or it was just a coincidence, I don't know. There was no point asking the MS guy because English was hard for him.
i was replying to his post as what he quoted to was a old post even before windows 10 was released.
the quote i posted is from the Microsoft Q&A which they put up after windows 10 was released.
also read the EULA. it clearly states if you upgraded from a stand-alone OS, you are allowed to transfer windows 10. when you click i accept to the EULA your agreeing the terms of it.
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