I HAVE PROOF THAT WITH WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE IS CRAP

I can understand being tied to hardware with an OEM copy but the fact I have a retail copy of Win7 and a paid upgrade to 8 this should entitle me to Win10 retail.
 
Just to get this clarified, if wanting Windows 10 Pro on a new pc can I buy Windows 8.1 Pro and upgrade retaining its 'retail' status?

For example, in 2 years time I decide to format my PC, that Windows 8.1 Pro 'Key' will essentially make it Windows 10 Pro... or because the free upgrade has passed if I reinstall then it will be Windows 8.1 Pro?

(trying to work out the cheapest way got get Windows 10 Retail, i.e. not tied to any components, unlimited formats etc)
 
thenewoc said:
but where is it in print from MS?
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If you make a meaningful change to your hardware, you may need to contact customer support to help with activation.
If you make a meaningful change to your hardware, you may need to contact customer support to help with activation.
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Plus the people I'm this thread who have already changed motherboard and got a serial key of MS.

And if you want to read the Eula, the OEM and retail rights are maintained as before, except in Germany where OEM can be transferred to new devices, thanks to court rulings.
 
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Glaucus said:
If you make a meaningful change to your hardware, you may need to contact customer support to help with activation.

Plus the people I'm this thread who have already changed motherboard and got a serial key of MS.

And if you want to read the Eula, the OEM and retail rights are maintained as before, except in Germany where OEM can be transferred to new devices, thanks to court rulings.
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That's good to hear people have been able to change mobo on 10.

In regards to the formatting after the year upgrade, is there any news on that? If its been mentioned apologies, but this thread has grown quite big
 
Glaucus said:
The 1 year limit is to take up the free offer nothing else.
So Reinstalling at any time is not an issue.
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As soon as I saw your reply I realised how stupid my question was considering the activation is done online.....so its already registered my upgrade regardless of when I reinstall.

Thanks for the confirmation anyway :)
 
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C35799Gamble said:
As soon as I saw your reply I realised how stupid my question was considering the activation is done online.....so its already registered my upgrade regardless of when I reinstall.

Thanks for the confirmation anyway :)
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Yep, as soon as you upgrade to w10 and confirm it's activated your fine, it's been registered on their system.

So people don't have to go searching, heres someone whos already changed hardware.

spinrs2k said:
Completely painless, I clearly explained what i had done to first line support they then passed me over to technical support who once they verified I had a valid RETAIL (RETAIL being the key word here) windows 8 pro key they then generated me a brand new RETAIL windows 10 pro key.

I don't know what's going on with everyone else but if read the terms of conditions on windows 10 it even says you can transfer a retail copy to another machine.

That is why retail copies cost more.

Its even been confirmed by MS MVPs and forum mods over on official Microsoft forums which you can google easy enough.
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Yep, as soon as you upgrade to w10 and confirm it's activated your fine, it's been registered on their system.

So people don't have to go searching, heres someone whos already changed hardware.
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Excellent! Its basically as painless as changing mobo on 8.1 and having to ring their activation line.

Considering this was the most argumentative area of w10 this needs to be out there more.

Maybe contact Danny091 and get him to put this on the front of his windows 10 FAQ thread
 
Glaucus said:
If you make a meaningful change to your hardware, you may need to contact customer support to help with activation.

Plus the people I'm this thread who have already changed motherboard and got a serial key of MS.

And if you want to read the Eula, the OEM and retail rights are maintained as before, except in Germany where OEM can be transferred to new devices, thanks to court rulings.
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Thanks, the bit that clarifies matters is section 4b in the EULA.
 
Elevon said:
So you want it free forever for all your hardware changes?...Keep dreaming.
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Yes, absolutely. If you originally buy a retail copy, then you expect to retain the right to keep using it when you upgrade your hardware... that has been the situation for every Windows upgrade so far. Just because MS decide to give this upgrade for free, doesn't mean I should lose the rights that come with my retail version of Windows. We didn't ask for a free upgrade, it was their choice.
 
Tuxxey said:
Your post has made me rethink upgrading my mobo + processor this year, that's for sure
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Don't, the post is a load if rubbish and isn't true. Read the last couple if pages.

thenewoc said:
Thanks, the bit that clarifies matters is section 4b in the EULA.
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Thnaks

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...a1906d5c-2183-4064-af8e-e6650c15d96d?page=100

Windows 10 Retail EULA Transfer (Section 4b - Stand-alone software) states:

"If you acquired the software as stand-alone software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement"

- the transfer rights in each EULA apply - in this case Retail license is always transferable to (a) another device to the same person or (b) with the software to another person's for use on their device if the transferer is the first owner of the license and the recipient agrees to the terms of the license.



OEM licenses and software (the o/s) , unlike Retail, are for use on one sole device (the device sold with pre-installed OEM o/s software and included license) and licensed solely for use on that same 'sold' device. The License and software is not eligible for transfer to another device by the same or another user. The License, software and device can be transferred to another user.
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Stu said:
Yes, absolutely. If you originally buy a retail copy, then you expect to retain the right to keep using it when you upgrade your hardware... that has been the situation for every Windows upgrade so far. Just because MS decide to give this upgrade for free, doesn't mean I should lose the rights that come with my retail version of Windows. We didn't ask for a free upgrade, it was their choice.
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Retail is different,anyway Glaucus posted the quote from Microsoft on usage , regardless some people make a mountain out of a mole hill.

I wonder what is next? :rolleyes:
 
Gangster said:
Just to get this clarified, if wanting Windows 10 Pro on a new pc can I buy Windows 8.1 Pro and upgrade retaining its 'retail' status?

For example, in 2 years time I decide to format my PC, that Windows 8.1 Pro 'Key' will essentially make it Windows 10 Pro... or because the free upgrade has passed if I reinstall then it will be Windows 8.1 Pro?

(trying to work out the cheapest way got get Windows 10 Retail, i.e. not tied to any components, unlimited formats etc)
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Kind of mentioned above, but any direct confirmation.

Don't want to buy a Windows 8.1 Pro, upgrade to 10 Pro now, then 2 years down the line format and then just be restricted to Windows 8.1 Pro.

If thats the case, I'll get Windows 10 Pro, but I'd like to know the cheapest route :D
 
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