I need some help - PC freezing when playing games

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 20:16

malicht said:
Woah woah woah.

As a shot in the dark, I just tested the BIOS on the card, and from what I can tell, its like, a mega old BIOS.

I thought I'd updated that.

Would this be the cause of the crashes you think?

EDIT: And no, Lancaster

I don't normally change the firmware on graphics cards to be honest.

Not sure any one's asked, do you have on board graphics? Chances are it'll be terrible - but if it'll start crysis and doesn't crash it might help narrow it down.

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 20:18

No, sadly not got onboard gfx

And I normally stay well clear of updating any Bios, but well, when you're desperate...

I thought I did this a while ago though...

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 21:24

Could you suggest a new GFX card Beej?

Anything round the £100 - £150 mark. Also, since im with AMD at the moment, is it important to stick with them given my processor and MOBO?

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 21:31

I go for something like this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-171-EA&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1830

No, don't worry graphics cards are built to work with any system

I'm still not convinced it's worth spending money on it yet - I mean from what you've been testing it doesn't seem the like the cards are the issue?

Unless its a problem with the graphics RAM - in which case it could cause seemingly random problems.

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 21:42

Maybe try this 'video memory stress test'
http://majorgeeks.com/Video_Memory_Stress_Test__d5896.html

I've no experience with it before, but I've just tried it and go no errors [as I'd expect!] on my HD3000 integrated graphics. I've no idea who wrote it, or if to trust it - but it might be worth a try.

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:12

Well, I can't even run DirectX11 with my current card, I was gonna buy one anyway so I've decided to get one!

Who knows maybe it will fix it maybe it wont. If I end up having to buy a NEW mobo least I'll have a new GFX card to go on it

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:13

malicht said:
Well, I can't even run DirectX11 with my current card, I was gonna buy one anyway so I've decided to get one!

Who knows maybe it will fix it maybe it wont. If I end up having to buy a NEW mobo least I'll have a new GFX card to go on it

Okay, fair enough. Well lets hope it fixes it!

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:14

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-178-OK&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1866

What do you think of this card?

Seems similar to the one you linked!

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:18

malicht said:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-178-OK&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1866

What do you think of this card?

Seems similar to the one you linked!

That's a good card for the money - the 460 I linked to is overclocked quite high, so its closer to 6870 performance! But if you wanted to spend closer to £100 that is a good choice.

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:25

This looks like it could shift it.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-115-MS

My Bro has said he'd put too as well if needed. Think this is worth the extra 30 quid ish?

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:36

malicht said:
This looks like it could shift it.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-115-MS

My Bro has said he'd put too as well if needed. Think this is worth the extra 30 quid ish?

Nah that's not worth the extra really. Either the cheaper 6850 or the GTX460 I linked to if you were gunna spend more. Don't be fooled, I had basically the same and it is not loud at all and overclocked pretty well too! [even though that MSI fan may look better, these cards don't run hot anyway really]

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:42

and this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-171-EA

Will definately fit in my MOBO?

Isn't huge is it?

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:43

malicht said:
and this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-171-EA

Will definately fit in my MOBO?

Isn't huge is it?

Its tiny for a graphics card, about 8.5" inches I think!

Just to clarify, these graphics cards aren't going to be better than crossfire 4850 [except you shouldn't have any crossfire issues], but for a single 1080p screen they do handle games well

I've got a 460, as have 2 of my house mates at Uni - they are good!

Idleman · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:44

Here`s a comparison 4570 v 6850

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/304?vs=291

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:44

Haha, cool.

If you had £200 to spend, what would you go for?

I'm in "discussions" with my brother

EDIT: oh cheers Idleman!

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:47

malicht said:
Haha, cool.

If you had £200 to spend, what would you go for?

I'm in "discussions" with my brother

EDIT: oh cheers Idleman!

7850 for £200

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-005-VX&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=411

They overclock sooo well!
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18389760

Edit, also I checked the 460 is only 8.25"/210mm!

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:49

Is it worth holding out for this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-154-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=411

Or is the one you link the same thing but cheaper?

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 22:51

And I don't think my MOBO is PCI 3.0.

Is it backwards compatible?

beejjacobs · 24 Apr 2012 at 23:18

malicht said:
Is it worth holding out for this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-154-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=411

Or is the one you link the same thing but cheaper?

They are the same GPU - though the MSI might overclock better/be quieter, so that's up to you!

malicht said:
And I don't think my MOBO is PCI 3.0.

Is it backwards compatible?

yes it is so that wont be a problem

malicht · 24 Apr 2012 at 23:34

Okay, ordered!

My 560W PSU will be enough for this right?

Oh and will I need any cables or anything especially for it? May as well order them at the same time!