i think i have drug dealers living next door to me

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fatiain said:
We all know drug dealers peddle their wares in nurseries, beat up old ladies for their pension money and carry weapons of mass destruction to escalate drug wars.

Your point being..? That they are all loveable rogues?
 
fatiain said:
We all know drug dealers peddle their wares in nurseries, beat up old ladies for their pension money and carry weapons of mass destruction to escalate drug wars.
Never a truer word spoken.

Bring back capital punishment and hang 'em all!
 
dirtydog said:
I don't class most speeding as a serious crime, because speeding per se is not dangerous and doesn't have a victim. Drug dealing always has a victim even if it's just tax evasion - a crime which indirectly hurts all of us FWIW.
I don't class having a spliff in the privacy of your own home a serious crime, because that is also not dangerous and doesn't have a victim.

I can see that this is something you feel very strongly about - mind sharing your reasons why this is so important to you?
 
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dirtydog said:
I don't class most speeding as a serious crime, because speeding per se is not dangerous and doesn't have a victim. Drug dealing always has a victim even if it's just tax evasion - a crime which indirectly hurts all of us FWIW.

so, as a law-abiding citizen, you condone speeding? you'd be singing a different tune if one of your kids (assumption) was hit by a car. i'd rather lose a few quid because drug dealers can't declare their earnings (:rolleyes: ) thank lose a loved-one to an innocent victim of a wreckless driver. of course, in a perfect world, all drivers would be competent enough to operate a vehicle correctly at high speeds, and drugs would be legal.
 
Treefrog said:
I can see that this is something you feel very strongly about - mind sharing your reasons why this is so important to you?

You want me to justify why I don't approve of drug dealers. I thought most right-thinking people thought that way. Going by this thread I seem to be the only one and everyone else thinks they're pillars of society.
 
dirtydog said:
Their (sic) normal people who happen to commit serious organised crime, yes..

c'mon dude, you're better than pulling grammar-rank on someone to win an argument. don't spoil the illusion that you're actually a decent human-being.
 
Sic said:
so, as a law-abiding citizen, you condone speeding? you'd be singing a different tune if one of your kids (assumption) was hit by a car. i'd rather lose a few quid because drug dealers can't declare their earnings (:rolleyes: ) thank lose a loved-one to an innocent victim of a wreckless driver. of course, in a perfect world, all drivers would be competent enough to operate a vehicle correctly at high speeds, and drugs would be legal.

No because I don't approve of people driving at inappropriate speeds, but "speeding" per se is not dangerous and per se has no victim. Can you grasp that concept.
 
This is simple as...

Go round their house... ask for a cup of sugar, give them the secret ;) too. Go back, have about 5 cups of tea and everything will be alllllllright.

Either that or the wink might make them think you want to be a sailors dance partner and they'll smack you one while plastering your house with male escort flyers.

Its a risk your willing to take.
 
dirtydog said:
No because I don't approve of people driving at inappropriate speeds, but "speeding" per se is not dangerous and per se has no victim. Can you grasp that concept.

then why does the government spend so much money on trying to make people aware of their speed. speeding may well not be dangerous in itself, but the higher your speed (in general) the less in control of a vehicle you're likely to be. do you consider drink-driving dangerous? that has no victims.

also, you just wrecked the illusion. i dont see why you feel you need to be condescending. perhaps you could explain that to me. or wouldn't i grasp that either? i get what you're saying, i just dont agree with it. can you grasp THAT concept?
 
I'm stunned by some of the statements here, leave them alone they aren't doing anyone any harm LOL

Do you think people selling illegal drugs have any qualms about cutting them, selling them to 12 or 14 year olds or that they pay any taxes or don't commit benifit fraud whilst dealing?

No, they don't, I can understand the reason you might not want to see them put out of business ;).

But don't defend them saying they aren't doing anyone any harm. When you have to cleared up the mess of a kid with drug induced psyhcosis who ended up curcuming to peer pressure and was sold speed cut with skag then come back and say leave them alone beause they aren't doing any harm.

Not all drug dealers are like the furry freak brothers in fact most aren't

MB

MB
 
dirtydog said:
You want me to justify why I don't approve of drug dealers. I thought most right-thinking people thought that way. Going by this thread I seem to be the only one and everyone else thinks they're pillars of society.
Explain, not justify. People are people, some will be total scumbags, some will be pillars of society in all other respects. I'm willing to bet that MPs don't get their charlie from a grubby backstreet dealer, but from someone who probably earns over £50k anyway and is well-respected.
 
Sic said:
then why does the government spend so much money on trying to make people aware of their speed. speeding may well not be dangerous in itself, but the higher your speed (in general) the less in control of a vehicle you're likely to be. do you consider drink-driving dangerous? that has no victims.

I really can't be bothered to rehash the speeding debate, done it too many times before.

also, you just wrecked the illusion. i dont see why you feel you need to be condescending. perhaps you could explain that to me. or wouldn't i grasp that either? i get what you're saying, i just dont agree with it. can you grasp THAT concept?

I grasp it fine, but you didn't seem to grasp mine at first which is why I tried to explain it again in simpler terms. We can agree to disagree on something without needing to call the other not a decent human being - or at least I can do that :)

edit - just seen MB's post, I see someone agrees with me anyway.
 
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Treefrog said:
Explain, not justify. People are people, some will be total scumbags, some will be pillars of society in all other respects. I'm willing to bet that MPs don't get their charlie from a grubby backstreet dealer, but from someone who probably earns over £50k anyway and is well-respected.

They are well respected because people don't know they're drug dealers I expect. Being a pillar of society & well respected, and being a drug dealer are mutually exclusive.
 
Matblack said:
I'm stunned by some of the statements here, leave them alone they aren't doing anyone any harm LOL

Do you think people selling illegal drugs have any qualms about cutting them, selling them to 12 or 14 year olds or that they pay any taxes or don't commit benifit fraud whilst dealing?

No, they don't, I can understand they reason you might not want to see them put out of business ;). But don't defend them saying they aren't doing anyone any harm. When you have to cleared up the mess of a kid with drug induced psyhcosis who ended up curcuming to peer pressure and was sold speed cut with skag then come back and say leave them alone beause they aren't doing any harm.

Not all drug dealers are like the furry freak brothers in fact most aren't

MB

MB

how is it the fault of the drug dealer if a guy takes too many drugs? that responsibility lies with the taker. same with alcohol. consume responsibly. as far as i can see, if you're a "respectable" (oh the irony :rolleyes: ) dealer, then i have no problem with you.
 
dirtydog said:
I really can't be bothered to rehash the speeding debate, done it too many times before.



I grasp it fine, but you didn't seem to grasp mine at first which is why I tried to explain it again in simpler terms. We can agree to disagree on something without needing to call the other not a decent human being - or at least I can do that :)

i'll only call someone's decency into question when they give me reason to. are you intending to patronise me, or is that the way you are? either way, my point stands
 
Sic said:
i'll only call someone's decency into question when they give me reason to. are you intending to patronise me, or is that the way you are? either way, my point stands

Doesn't it strike you as ironic that you're calling my decency into question because I don't love drug dealers?
 
Sic said:
how is it the fault of the drug dealer if a guy takes too many drugs? that responsibility lies with the taker. same with alcohol. consume responsibly. as far as i can see, if you're a "respectable" (oh the irony :rolleyes: ) dealer, then i have no problem with you.

It isn't, but it is the responsibility of a dealer of he is selling cut gear, selling to kids and messing up peoples lives.

Just because someone is flogging you something you want, does not mean that they aren't doing damage. My suspicion is you are protecting your source by trying to justify that your dealer is a jolly nice chap by all means buy drugs but don't try and convince people that dealers are upstanding citizens and deserve their position is society.

MB
 
dirtydog said:
Doesn't it strike you as ironic that you're calling my decency into question because I don't love drug dealers?

not really. it takes all sorts...as we have all learned today.
 
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