Man of Honour
The point is that we have always been a product of immigration armed or not armed from at least 2000 years ago.
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I thought Sweden was a nice place...
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The point is that we have always been a product of immigration armed or not armed from at least 2000 years ago.
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Soldato
Ill stick true to my word, my prev posted is now edited. TY @ci_newman for tidying it up a bit
Soldato
Nice of you edit and quote something i never even said....
Also since you edited the quote to say "moustache man bad" im assuming that means you think Hitler was good? Or is it a case of im just putting words in your mouth like you are mine?
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There is a qualitative difference between an armed invasion and immigration.
"February 2022: Russian immigration to Ukraine increases"
Man of Honour
No really, I mean it, very well played. The thread was going just fine until you posted a totally wild "you're all Nazis" accusation. Moustache man bad, and we are the same, obviously. Thread successfully torpedoed, and your POV is clearly the winning one. I look forward to many more totally productive interactions with your obviously good faith approach.
Yes, we know. Our point is that this is a very silly point. Care to respond to our carefully considered posts challenging it, rather than just repeating it?
I'm personally very pleased to see a western nation at least making noises around trying to combat this. Whether it actually comes to anything is a different matter. It's important to note that it's going to be difficult to separate the issue from immigration, as this issue is predominantly based around Swedish immigrant areas.
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The Anglo-Saxons and Jutes were cordially invited by Vortigern, to protect the resident British population of the Roman Imperial province, from raids by the Gauls, Celts, Picts and so on.
There was no invasion, as such. Just a mostly peaceful migration and settling, with a few skirmishes in defence of the existing locals.
Caporegime
You guys are talking the most general nonsense about centuries of people migration for whatever reason Vs 30 years of "people" turning up and become the defacto criminals in a country.
Your discussion would be better if you said it from the point of some Celtic tribes suddenly getting a bit miffed with an influx of Roman wine traders suddenly cornering the market and anyone that messed with them got the sharp end of a gladius.
Romantic talk about immigration isn't what this is about.
Your discussion would be better if you said it from the point of some Celtic tribes suddenly getting a bit miffed with an influx of Roman wine traders suddenly cornering the market and anyone that messed with them got the sharp end of a gladius.
Romantic talk about immigration isn't what this is about.
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Unfortunately thats juat the way it goes when ever the issue of legal immigration and its pitfalls are raised. Folks will either purposely conflate illegal and legal immigration or start chuntering on about Romans/Anglo saxons etc 1500 odd years ago or the usa all the while ignoring that successful integration of immigrants requires a core value of shared beliefs which isnt happening in recent times.
Just looked that up.... I'm not sure that went as peacefully as you're implying... One story. ...
"....The story of why Vortigern granted land in Britain to the Saxons, first to Thanet in exchange for service as foederati troops, then to the rest of Kent in exchange for marriage to Hengest's daughter,[6] then to Essex and Sussex after a banquet where the Saxons treacherously slew all of the leaders of the British but saved Vortigern to extract this ransom..."
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Largely peaceful by contemporary measures. There was a lot of cultural integration and the continuation of existing Roman societal structuring, which does not happen with an invasion as the invaders seek to displace existing lifestyles with their own.
Caporegime
No it's about finding a problem and fixing the problem. Approaching it from all available avenues.
There's nothing less fortunate about being an Albanien drug baron. They probably have a life 50x better than they could ever have eked out in their homeland, at the expense of their new business homeland.
It's the same as knife crime in London.
There's a clear group to target but it's too scary to do stop and search because it's racist.
im not a giant racist, contrary to beliefs.
I'm just so bored of the way we are sleep walking into a future of crap.But...it is what it is and we won't change tack. We will keep pussyfooting about until it's completely too late. Criminal element sin society that can be easily identified should be eradicated then measures taken to not be fertile ground for them to re-establish. We can't travel back in time so we do the best we can now.
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The Romans had one of their largest standing (occupying) armies in Britain for centuries, to the point where its sheer size challenged Rome itself. Never subdued the island and eventually gave up.
Some integration.
But it's not one problem is it?
We have a growing unproductive elderly populace, less newborns and less passionate/more risk averse workers as well as lolworthy levels of investment into automation compared to similar countries... something has to give.
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Caporegime
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ok And yes... the whole of the west has set itself up for this and it's time to reap what we, our parents, have sown.
I don't see a way out, short of a nationalism political movement and that brings its own set of disaster as we all know.
It's a cyclical mess and were on the down stroke.
Soldato
I knew Sweden had a lot of bombings. I've heard more bombs have exploded in Sweden than during the entire WW2.
Caporegime
That's a direct link to the hugely dissproprtionate use of explosives.
"They" probably snuffled up a container load back in the day of that war and now have them on tap.
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But it's cultural enrichment. They told us so when they opened the floodgates.
This thread continues to be an utter nightmare to moderate. A warning was posted several hours ago and it continues to be dragged off topic.
If you wish to continue the various off topic threads taking place here, please find the appropriate place in SC to do so, but you won't be doing it here.
If you wish to continue the various off topic threads taking place here, please find the appropriate place in SC to do so, but you won't be doing it here.
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