Intel most likely prioritizes oem sales, less warranty, big quantities, fixed partners, easy shipping (volume).
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i9 9900k pricing
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So inventory is getting better and the price increases further this is confusing haha
I honestly might switch to zen in january intel creating fake benchmarks and boosting reviews and then saying all is fair, meanwhile withholding stock and charging prem's.
I honestly might switch to zen in january intel creating fake benchmarks and boosting reviews and then saying all is fair, meanwhile withholding stock and charging prem's.
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I'd just go with whatever performs best within your budget. Even without the massaged benchmarks, there's still a divide.
Which cheaper memory? Weed&coke too much?
I was going to buy 16GB G skill Flare X 3200mhz for Ryzen but this was £200 so I bought some Corsair LPX C15 3000mhz instead for 9900k for £120
Ryzen goes well with this kit, too:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
WTH?
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Team Group Dark T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TDGED4= £119.99
Total: £128.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)
WTH?
Good chip and no doubt it will serve you well but your reasoning makes no sense, you can use the cheaper memory on Ryzen in exactly the same way you can on the 9900K, all DDR4 works with all chips, Intel or Ryzen is irrelevant.
I was only going to buy B die for Ryzen Cas14.
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Prices are slowly dropping towards msrp which is good for buyers. 
should have got TeamGroup, same IC under heatspreaders or better and only £99 !
Or you could have got 3200MHz from TeamGroup for £119 or £129 from Kingston Predator.
B Die is better on all platforms including Intel, also why would you buy G.Skill flare which is just B die when for £169.99 you can get 8 Pack 3200MHz kit or the 4000MHz kit for £199 both of which use screened B die, better than Flare!
You need educating on memory it seems padowan!
Ah i see, look the 9900K with the same IPC as Ryzen but 20% higher clocks is that much faster in games than the 2700K, in that sense its understandably worth the extra £200 to some including you.
I think people get too hung up on memory with Ryzen, i run some pretty crappy LPX at 3Ghz CL16 and my humble 1600 runs very well, performance in games is excellent, now you can get CL15 3200Mhz ram for £130, as 4K8K pointed out, the difference between that ram and the almost mythically perceived Samsung B-Die is margins of error levels, very little.
Prices are slowly dropping towards msrp which is good for buyers.
Our prices are considerably below US MSRP which is $579 as OcUK is $525 to a person buying in USA and that is on retail SKU.
On the tray CPU we are $489, so we are massively undercutting the USA!
Remember the pound is very weak, giving the export customer an advantage by buying from UK!
Plus FREE games bundle from us as well!
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I think people get too hung up on memory with Ryzen, i run some pretty crappy LPX at 3Ghz CL16 and my humble 1600 runs very well, performance in games is excellent, now you can get CL15 3200Mhz ram for £130, as 4K8K pointed out, the difference between that ram and the almost mythically perceived Samsung B-Die is margins of error levels, very little.
Unfortunately the perceived ryzen memory issues are born out of the actual issues people had with the launch of the first gen. You can't blame people for being wary when the internet is still full of stories of memory incompatibility/instability.
Hopefully with ryzen 2000 being better and presumably ryzen 3000 continuing the trend people will move past it.
should have got TeamGroup, same IC under heatspreaders or better and only £99 !
Or you could have got 3200MHz from TeamGroup for £119 or £129 from Kingston Predator.
B Die is better on all platforms including Intel, also why would you buy G.Skill flare which is just B die when for £169.99 you can get 8 Pack 3200MHz kit or the 4000MHz kit for £199 both of which use screened B die, better than Flare!
You need educating on memory it seems padowan!
I can always return it after testing
Is Cas 15 3000mhz better than Cas 16 3200mhz?Plus FREE games bundle from us as well!
Just noticed this in my order! can I sell the codes?
I can always return it after testing
They are all same IC, point is you could have saved £20 or got faster SPD stuff. 3200C16, will do 3000C15 all day long on an Intel platform, probably even C14.
To be honest this is best 3000 kit value for money wise:
Team Group Vulcan TUF Gaming Alliance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Blac @ £119.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...-3000mhz-dual-channel-kit-blac-my-0a1-tg.html
TLTYD416G3000HC16CDC01, 3000MHz RAM Speed, CAS 16-18-18-36 Timings, 1.25-1.35v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £119.99 inc VAT.
ORDER NOW
As it is B-die (unscreened), Corsair 99% won't be, B-due tunes and OC's better seen them as low as 3000C12 or as high as 4000MHz even on none screened stuff.
The same issues Intel had with their first DDR4 platform, X99.
AMD's early problems with DDR4 was nothing unique to them or unusual, and Like X99 it is not an issue that exists now.
I do hope we can learn from being over critical of AMD for way past a reasonable end date because if we don't we will sure as every month comes round once a year lose the competition we now have again, the competition that was absent from CPU for a decade and is now lacking in the GPU space for what i think in the case of the latter at least too much blind and over aggressive fanboyism.
To be honest as we build thousands of systems, were still encountering memory tuning issues with AMD, but its now only limited to certain Gigabyte and MSI boards, which they do now tend to fix and resolve pretty swiftly, but these issues are generally not encountered in the first place with B die, but other IC's for sure there is still some issues, particular at 3000MHz and above.
Asus and Asrock have the best memory tuning on AMD, but again B-die yields the best results, particular if your overclocking, B-die is still number one, but this is also the same for Intel, in our very high-end OC machines and 8 Pack builds we only use 8 Pack and G.Skill Trident memory, as nothing else can even come close to the raw megahertz and memory tuning ability compared to screened B-die, its in another league.
Some of the middling and lower end boards from some brands are just plain crap, thats the problem, on a limited budget i was very careful about what board to get, i even asked 8Pack and then went with his recommendation, the CPU tho, that was a no-brainer.
I think what i will say is AMD need to take a harder stance with Partners on the quality of the products that represent theirs, as nVidia and Intel do, for good reason.