I'd forgotten how utterly awesome sci-fi can be.

Season 4 is done. Sort of shows that season 5 was unexpected, seems to be a collection of filler episodes
 
I have always had a an affinity for Star Trek, mainly TNG and DS9. Best of Both Worlds and All Good Things... being may fave from TNG and The Visitor, Far Beyond the Stars and The Dominion war in general from DS9.

Stargate SG-1 was good but did go downhill but I am really liking Stargate Atlantis. Should eb interesting to see what next season is like since it seems to be all change character wise.

Sliders was great in its first 2 seasons and the first few eps of Season3 then it just went completely to pot. Season 4 did its moments though.

BSG, hmm, never could get into that. I wonder if it would be as grity without the wobbly camera work.

Futurama must count as Sci-Fi sort of, that was just brilliant. Can't believe that was cancelled.
 
There's also released-to-DVD "episodes" being made, the first released in the UK recently (Babylon 5: Lost Tales) and are more individual character-focused episodes.

Crusade was getting better near the end of the run and a shame it didn't get a further push by the networks, though I didn't think we'd see more B5 after The Legend of the Rangers, which I thought was rubbish.

The recent sci-fi series like Battlestar Galactica and Firefly, while excellent shows, I think aren't as brilliant as B5 was. BSG was let down last season by all the "filler" episodes that the network wanted to bring in that lost viewer interest in the series. I think it's the right decision to make the next season the last.
 
I loved B5 back when it first aired but it did tend to swerve from the sublime to the jaw clenchingly awful, sometimes within the same episode.
My favourite is still 'And the Sky Full of Stars' from season 1. Although the final revelation of what really happened at the Battle of the Line turned out to be a bit 'huh?'.
 
Had all the B5 on Video, then went out and got them on DVD too. Cracking show just sitting through Season 4 at the moment again, i was going to watch Battlestar but a mate has borrowed them from me to watch.
 
I quite often hear people say that season one of B5 was a bit slow and uninteresting. I struggle to understand people saying that, the scope of what season one sets up is quite mind boggling. Im still discovering things hinted at in season one that come to fruition in later seasons. You watch a later episode and it suddenly becomes clear what was meant by sometimes quite subtle hints in the early episodes. I actually think it pays to go back and watch season one again as soon as you've finished all five seasons.

I very nearly stopped watching B5 back in the early days when i discovered they had dumped the Sinclair character for Sheriden. I to this day prefer the Sinclair character and always wanted to know how the series would have played out with that character instead.
 
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B&W said:
I love B5, I watched the new movie they released a while ago. Voices in the dark its called. It was pretty good and I believe theyre going to make more movies. :)

Such a shame that Dr Franklin (Richard Biggs), Zathras (Tim Choate) and G'kar (Andreas Katsulas) are no longer with us. :(
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The memorials on the new DVD are quite nice.

I always thought G'kar got some of the best dialogue. This being one of my favorites.

"G'Quon wrote, there is a greater darkness then the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities. It is against chaos and despair! Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope. The death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain."
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Sound clip here.

http://b5.cs.uwyo.edu/bab5/snds/s3eplog2.zip
 
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I was always a bit of a "Space: Above and Beyond" Fan but as they only made one season it seamed a waste. I have always loved B5 and will always will its the only reason i still have a VHS player as i have the entire collection on video.
 
B5 is just great, the continuing story running throughout the show had depth, really engaging show. Plus IMO the special effects were the best of the scifi show of the era.

Less utopian and 'dirtier' than Star Trek, loved it.
 
I absolutely loved Firefly. Stupid FOX for killing it, "Sci-Fi doesn't sell" lol...

Red Dwarf was also amazing :D..
 
swanseajack said:
Anyone remember the series they did in the early 80's "War of the Worlds" not many people liked it but I thought it was ok, the only thing that got on my nerves was the fact that no one in the general public seemed to remember the planet being half destroyed by the martins first time around.
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wasn't that called tripods?
 
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melchy said:
I quite often hear people say that season one of B5 was a bit slow and uninteresting. I struggle to understand people saying that, the scope of what season one sets up is quite mind boggling. Im still discovering things hinted at in season one that come to fruition in later seasons. You watch a later episode and it suddenly becomes clear what was meant by sometimes quite subtle hints in the early episodes. I actually think it pays to go back and watch season one again as soon as you've finished all five seasons.
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Agreed, but you have to understand that for someone who's watched the whole series to start rewatching it from s1 is a bit anticlimatic. Compared to the galaxy-changing epic it evolves to, season 1's collection of completely self-contained episodes seems really inconsequential and even a bit claustrophobic, taking place as they do entirely on the station. But yeah, there's lots of hints about later events that I enjoy noticing. The best part of it is seeing how different Londo and G'Kar were in season 1 compared to the complex characters they develop into. G'Kar starts off like the typical warmongering, self-centred alien, womanising, spiteful and money-grabbing, sort of like a cross between a Ferengi weapon-merchant and a Klingon brothel-owner :p By Season 5 he's this Buddha-like warrior-mystic, preaching self-sacrifice and forgiveness. Londo otoh starts off as a sympathetic if annoying washed-up diplomat in a dead-end job reminiscing about better days and by s3 he's sunk into the being the darkest, most despised and most bitter, vengeful and ruthless character on the show, and he has to fight his way back up to the surface and wash himself off all the evil he's contaminated with one bloody inch at a time. I always thought it was a bit heart-rending that, just as he's re-gained the respect of his peers and colleagues, and finally be in a position to make up for all the evil he's done (spoiler warniing) by being crowned emperor, is exactly the point when he gets mind-controlled by that alien thing and is forced to start acting like a piece of scum again. He loses the respect of all the other characters that he's fought so hard to regain, and everyone who doesn't know he's mind-controlled thinks he IS the evil ****** he acts like.(end spoilers)

I very nearly stopped watching B5 back in the early days when i discovered they had dumped the Sinclair character for Sheriden. I to this day prefer the Sinclair character and always wanted to know how the series would have played out with that character instead.
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Really? I agree that Sinclair had a lot more potential as a character, and a better backstory with the Valen/Battle of the Line stuff (ahem, won't go into that cause I cba to paste in the spoiler markers again;)), but the actor was SO ****ING WOODEN! :p Not that Boxleitner was the best actor on the show but he was loads more likeable.

One funny thing I noticed was that Sheridan's hair gradually morphs to the style that Sinclair had them in, and when Sinclair turns up in s2 he had also changed HIS hairstyle to look like Sheridan's! :p

Also, anyone else get the impression that a few season 2 episodes basically rehash the plot of particular season 1 episodes? I always wonderedd if that was cause JMS wanted to establish the same things for Sheridan as he had for Sinclair.
 
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