Identify this ancient mobo!

Reality|Bites · 20 Mar 2007 at 22:13

It could be a PcChips motherboards,

I bet it's an MSC motherboard though.

Cupra · 20 Mar 2007 at 22:28

its probably an asrock.

MAllen · 20 Mar 2007 at 22:30

paul_64l said:
its probably an asrock.

Unlikely. It is too old for an ASRock. And they are all well labeled with big white logo.

Has the OP tried removing the board from case to check the back of it? Intel have a stupid habit of painting model numbers on the back. And I have also seen an MSI like that.

Trigger · 20 Mar 2007 at 22:37

MAllen said:
It is too old for an ASRock. And they are all well labeled with big white logo.

No they're not. I'd be looking in between the PCI slots for a model number of some sort

Justintime · 20 Mar 2007 at 22:39

The OP mentioned 'Micro star' is labelled on the board, why all the guesses on its brand?

MAllen · 20 Mar 2007 at 22:41

Justintime said:
The OP mentioned 'Micro star' is labelled on the board, why all the guesses on its brand?

Because OP has gone to bed and we are all just here throwing random comments into the thread.

Personally I am waiting for the text between the PCI slots which has now been mentioned half a dozen times.

ins0mn1ac · 20 Mar 2007 at 22:45

Deffo an MSI as above, also I see an FX5200? :eek:

(looks like atleast)

semi-pro waster · 20 Mar 2007 at 22:52

Justintime said:
The OP mentioned 'Micro star' is labelled on the board, why all the guesses on its brand?

I guess I started that one off although it was by accident, manveruppd didn't seem 100% on what the motherboard manufacturer was so I just threw in a comment that I used to have a Chaintech motherboard that looked like it. Having the Micro Star label is a good clue normally but might MSI not also produce components that other manufacturers use? I don't know either way but some of the bigger companies do so components labelled with one thing doesn't always imply that the whole thing is by the same people.

Justintime · 20 Mar 2007 at 23:00

Well a lot of mobos have foxconn labelled gear etc.. on them, but i always though MSI were a maker of boards with components from other manufacturers, not actually a manufacturer of the parts. Could also be that the board is a no model name MSI board made for OEMs etc..

Trigger · 20 Mar 2007 at 23:02

Justintime said:
The OP mentioned 'Micro star' is labelled on the board, why all the guesses on its brand?

Because it doesn't necessarily mean that the board is an MSI- IIRC MSI sell their components to other manufacturers? Pretty much all older MSI boards I've seen were green as well

markyb · 20 Mar 2007 at 23:11

Looks like a PC Chips board based on a SiS Chipset (Could be SiS630/650).

Looks like a PC Chips LM810

Used to get loads of these in work a while back, normally the o/b graphics fails on them. Reporting NV-Ram Failed.

God im full of useless info

Justintime · 20 Mar 2007 at 23:12

Trigger said:
Because it doesn't necessarily mean that the board is an MSI- IIRC MSI sell their components to other manufacturers? Pretty much all older MSI boards I've seen were green as well

I''ve seen a lot of older MSI in that colour as well as green and red. Seems to be an Asus thing these days though. I think the best thing to do is boot the damn thing up and see what software says if it has that info

Cupra · 20 Mar 2007 at 23:34

its not an msi

i was looking at a pcchips 810lmr but it had writing on nb...
and next to amr port.. but it is that board.. i built loads of pc's on this board for people

kmistry · 20 Mar 2007 at 23:44

Defcon5 said:
Nice hairy fingers btw, I suggest you never go for a job as a hand model

LOL

MAllen · 20 Mar 2007 at 23:49

deleted said:
...also I see an FX5200? (looks like atleast)

IMHO - That is too small for a FX5200. Also the age of the dust on top tells me it is much older. Look how few components are soldered to the board. And only a single VGA connector, no S-Video.

Logically it is as old as the motherboard, so GeForce 2MX at the most. Could even be an old S3.

And having second thoughts about the words on that joystick port. It actually says "Micro Star Computers Void if removed". That isn't Micro Star International... so it could just be the system builders stamp. I think the PC Chips guys have it. I remember working on board looking like this... (painful memories.... especially of their earliest VIA boards...)

ns400r · 20 Mar 2007 at 23:53

markyb said:
Looks like a PC Chips board based on a SiS Chipset (Could be SiS630/650).

Looks like a PC Chips LM810

Used to get loads of these in work a while back, normally the o/b graphics fails on them. Reporting NV-Ram Failed.

God im full of useless info

Looks good. The AMI bios used also looks like it might be a PCChips board rebadged as Micro Star. Not many early Micro Star boards used AMI.

manveruppd · 21 Mar 2007 at 00:44

I should've mentioned that I had already tried CPU-Z and it didn't return any info at all. Also, after I posted this thread I went onto MSI's website and checked the pics of ALL their old discontinued socket A boards and drew up a blank.

However, I took semi-pro waster's advice and downloaded Aida32, and I'm glad to report that those of you who said PC Chips were bang on the money! Special kudos to paul_64l and markyb for guessing the right model too!

Aida reported M810LR (not LMR), so I went onto pcchips.com.tw to find out what processors it supports, so we could see if we could get his rig a little bit more up to speed. Unfortunately, there seem to be about 17 different revisions of that board - about 7 of them are labelled "M810L", and I assume ours is one of those, but I've no way of identifying which one! :/

I don't think this is important though, as the CPU he's got in there is already a 1GH Palomino, so I'm guessing it'll support faster Pallies and possibly T-birds. It would be good to know though, as some of the "M819Ls" listed on the PC CHips site can support up to a 2600+, while others can only handle up to a 2200+. It's got an SiS730 chipset though, we know that much, and there seem to be plenty of more recent BIOSes we could download for it, so I guess it's just a matter of how many risks that friend of mine wants me to take with his board!

Defcon5 said:
Nice hairy fingers btw, I suggest you never go for a job as a hand model

I'll have you know that not only am I a celebrated hand model, but also famous for being the most sought-after foot model in all of Hobbiton!

Justintime · 21 Mar 2007 at 06:18

I think you mean 1Ghz T-Bird.
Its:

Thunderbird - Palomino - Tbred A, Tbred B then Barton

Can't remember 100% but i think the Palomino began at 1.33Ghz with the 1500+

manveruppd · 21 Mar 2007 at 09:24

That's what I used to think to, but I'm more likely to be wrong than Cpu-Z is:

Is it possible the guy who built the system for him didn't have any 1GHz processors in stock so he put in a faster one and underclocked it? If that's so then all I need to do is get him some 133MHz SDRAM and he'll get a 33% speed boost without even overclocking anything!

markyb · 21 Mar 2007 at 11:16

If thats a re-branded LM810 the fastest processor supported is a Athlon 2000XP. The Chipset will not support any faster IIRC.

I remember building/rebuilding a few PCs with these boards at work years back.

Hope this helps.