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If next year's consoles do 4k/60..

Woodsta888 said:
Show me the ones 5 years ahead, I'm ready to buy one. I read that that LG C9 you linked suffers from stutter and can only do 1440p @ 120hz.

I'm waiting to see 'just the reality of it'.

WAITING!!!!
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Stutter is only a thing with 24p , and its not just a problem with Oled screens , my Samsung q90r does it too and also my Lg 165hz Va, its just because of the instant pixel response time it's more exaggerated , google 24p movie stutter.

Basically 24p is a weird framerate and has been an issue for modern displays regardless of the technology , personally i prefer the stuttering to what people call the soap opera effect that happens when you use various post processing effects to mitigate the stutter.

https://www.projectorcentral.com/judder_24p.htm

4k 120hz will come with Hdmi 2.1 , of that i have no doubt, its just a shame Tv's never come with a dp input.
 
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darket said:
Stutter is only a thing with 24p , and its not just a problem with Oled screens , my Samsung q90r does it too and also my Lg 165hz Va, its just because of the instant pixel response time it's more exaggerated , google 24p movie stutter.

4k 120hz will come with Hdmi 2.1 , of that i have no doubt, its just a shame Tv's never come with a dp input.
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You reckon gfx card manufacturers will put HDMI 2.1 connectors on the cards? As it seems it's a small amount of folk that will require it for a TV. My monitor I bought this month but no HDMI 2.1 on that. Hopefully they will for those wanting to use TV's as their display. has there been any official noises that HDMI 2.1 is coming to graphics cards?
 
Woodsta888 said:
You reckon gfx card manufacturers will put HDMI 2.1 connectors on the cards? As it seems it's a small amount of folk that will require it for a TV. Not looked at my monitor I bought this month but no HDMI 2.1 on that. Hopefully they will for those wanting to use TV's as their display. has there been any official noises that HDMI 2.1 is coming to graphics cards?
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I am pretty sure they will. It is 2020 and their next gen of cards will be their main cards on sale until 2022. So it would be mad not to.
 
darket said:
Stutter is only a thing with 24p , and its not just a problem with Oled screens , my Samsung q90r does it too and also my Lg 165hz Va, its just because of the instant pixel response time it's more exaggerated , google 24p movie stutter.

Basically 24p is a weird framerate and has been an issue for modern displays regardless of the technology , personally i prefer the stuttering to what people call the soap opera effect that happens when you use various post processing effects to mitigate the stutter.

https://www.projectorcentral.com/judder_24p.htm

4k 120hz will come with Hdmi 2.1 , of that i have no doubt, its just a shame Tv's never come with a dp input.
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imagine being so desperate for an argument you (not actually you but other posters) start talking about 24hz judder, nothing at all to do with gaming but anyway lmao
 
Woodsta888 said:
You reckon gfx card manufacturers will put HDMI 2.1 connectors on the cards? As it seems it's a small amount of folk that will require it for a TV. My monitor I bought this month but no HDMI 2.1 on that. Hopefully they will for those wanting to use TV's as their display. has there been any official noises that HDMI 2.1 is coming to graphics cards?
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Do i think so ? yes , am i banking on it ? no , but with this latest partnership between Nvidia and Lg i can't imagine a situation that the next gen won't have hdmi 2.1 being that the Xox and Ps5 have both confirmed 2.1

Grim5 said:
imagine being so desperate for an argument you (not actually you but other posters) start talking about 24hz judder, nothing at all to do with gaming but anyway lmao
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Yeah i know , it just triggers me when people talk a load of bs about things they know zero about.
 
If you want to play games in a lowish resolution, inferior panel with extreme framerates/extreme low latency - get a PC monitor.

If you want the best picture quality, amazing HDR, low latency and can 'put up' with 1440p @ 120hz or wait a few months for 4k @ 120hz, get an LG OLED.
 
VincentHanna said:
If you want to play games in a lowish resolution, inferior panel with extreme framerates/extreme low latency - get a PC monitor.

If you want the best picture quality, amazing HDR, low latency and can 'put up' with 1440p @ 120hz or wait a few months for 4k @ 120hz, get an LG OLED.
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Only thing the LGc9 has over a pC monitor is the blacks associated with OLED which is fair enough if you have to have the best picture quality. My 77 inch LED TV may mates come and see and go woooow at I say oh the blacks aren't at the levels of an OLED and they haven't a clue what I'm on about or care. My Mrs is teh same. I say about glow or bleed - she says she doesn't notice it until I point it out.

But OLED blacks come at a vast price price. The latency on that LG is 6ms @ 1440 and 13ms at 4k. high end monitors are quicker. And you'll be tied to an Nvidia GPU for those TV's. In fact spend all that £ on that TV just for blacker blacks and you still gotta buy a new GPU with HDMI 2.1.

I agree OLED has the best image currently for TV. I Just bought a new monitor and looked ta the C9 but it doesn't do the resolution or hz I can do from my current GPU. The only thing I have lost out to the C9is the blackest blacks. I think my monitor wins in every other respect and I can use it now. Some panels wont do HDR with G-sync or VRR switched on or visa versa.

On the C9 does it do HDR with G-sync on? As Only G-sync ultimate is meant to do VRR with HDR same as freesync 2. Are these C9 TV's G-sync or G-sync ultimate?
 
Yes, I play PC games at 4K with HDR and G-sync on

12 bit colour / 422 chroma.

Personally I don't play multiplayer games on my PC either and I use The Xbox Elite 2 controller for single player PC games, so 6ms and 13ms latency are not an issue at all for me.

I tend to use my Xbox One X for multiplayer as my friends are all on that platform, and again everyone uses a controller so we're all in the same boat.
 
Hedge said:
Funny how people are battling over Tvs vs monitors now.

Tvs are currently way way way better than monitor offerings.
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For watching films and TV entertainment yes. Not ahead for gaming. Only the blacks from OLED panels are desirable from TV panels.

I'd love TV's to be a one stop shop for gaming and TV's. Nearly there but not quite there yet.
 
Woodsta888 said:
For watching films and TV entertainment yes. Not ahead for gaming. Only the blacks from OLED panels are desirable from TV panels.

I'd love TV's to be a one stop shop for gaming and TV's. Nearly there but not quite there yet.
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Do you mean for competitive gaming by any chance? The reason I ask is most people when they say gaming these days they are talking about competitive or multiplayer stuff which I do not do. I think for gaming (for my needs anyway) TV's like the LG 9 series are perfectly fine.
 
TNA said:
Do you mean for competitive gaming by any chance? The reason I ask is most people when they say gaming these days they are talking about competitive or multiplayer stuff which I do not do. I think for gaming (for my needs anyway) TV's like the LG 9 series are perfectly fine.
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That's all I can assume, as there's no way a £1000 PC monitor is going to be better than a £2500 OLED for anything else.
 
C9 owners - when you do 1440p is it 2560x1440 or UW 1440. And are the pixels natively mapped to the panel
VincentHanna said:
That's all I can assume, as there's no way a £1000 PC monitor is going to be better than a £2500 OLED for anything else.
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Gaming @ 4k 120hz? All the other motion features high end monitors have? Surprised tft central haven't done a review yet.

On the C9 when you drop it to 2560x1440 does it just use less than half the pixels of the screen for native pixel mapping (black bars all round) or does it stretch it across the 3840x2160 as they are both the same ratios?
 
It's standard 2560x1440 because the screen is 16:9 and if you want 1:1 pixel mapping with black borders you need to use the Nvidia control panel, otherwise the TV scales the image to fit - Though there may be a setting you can use on the TV to only display native 1:1

I have an Acer Predator Ultrawide 100hz 3440x1440 monitor which cost me £900 in 2016. The last game I remember playing on that was XCOM 2: War of the chosen...As soon as I got an OLED TV that monitor was pretty much defunct for gaming, such is the difference in image quality between the two screens.
 
VincentHanna said:
It's standard 2560x1440 because the screen is 16:9 and if you want 1:1 pixel mapping with black borders you need to use the Nvidia control panel, otherwise the TV scales the image to fit - Though there may be a setting you can use on the TV to only display native 1:1

I have an Acer Predator Ultrawide 100hz 3440x1440 monitor which cost me £900 in 2016. The last game I remember playing on that was XCOM 2: War of the chosen...As soon as I got an OLED TV that monitor was pretty much defunct for gaming, such is the difference in image quality between the two screens.
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One reason I just have a cheap monitor nowadays. Monitors have their place especially in gaming terms. Do love both my monitor and the OLED and couldn’t really use the OLED for M+K fps games personally. However when you are talking about a high end monitor costing £1000-2000 or sometimes even more, I know what I’d go for.

OLED still isn’t perfect and has A LOT of potential issues aside from burn just like LCD.
 
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