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If next year's consoles do 4k/60..

hyperseven said:
Well, yes. You can't just pluck arbitrary figures out of the air. Why 'for them' :confused:

Is this like wccftech now where we can just make stuff up :p
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If he's Not counting R&D and marketing etc. Just material cost to manufacture, I reckon a 2080TI probably costs a couple of hundred quid. I am definitely making that up mind haha.

I say "for them" because I think Nvidia are starting to overprice their products so if someone told me they make greedy profit I'd probably nod and agree (with zero evidence of course :D)
 
I think a lot of people make assumptions about console graphics without actually seeing them in person.

I don't think there are any pc games that look as good as God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn (obviously it's coming to pc so will look better then) and Uncharted 4.

They probably aren't same native resolution or framerate but they definitely look better than what I've played in my pc thus far.
 
If you're a "240hz gamer" does it mean you don't play games that you can't run at 240fps?

I personally just prefer to call myself a "gamer" and enjoy anything that has good gameplay without getting too hung up about fps counters.
 
Rofflay said:
Well i have no console do i so i either need half refresh for controller games thus 120fps or i want the 120 to 240 range for my mouse not to feel garbage and stuttery. Ive been there 120hz is great for controller games and the likes but its not ok for FPS games.


I am fine with the tag of missing games but no i would disagree on that i do not play them i do eventually i just am extremely patient in what i play i play things from 3years ago but i do it at 4k 120hz. You laugh but it is superior because the games are never the same as they would have been had i played them on launch and by the time i buy them the GOTY is a tenner at most sometimes less. The only time i ever miss a game is something like PUBG which my 2080ti only recently allowed me to play around that fps i like. But surprisingly there are actually a lot of good MP games 20tflop can sustain 4k 120hz so i enjoy a lot of those over whatever the recent craze is.
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Seems a strange mentality considering you mention FPS games. Most of them are centred around multiplayer experiences now which means they get released, people get hyped, playerbase peaks and everyone is having a great time. Then you come along 3 years later and you are left playing with a couple of weirdos who never moved onto something new xD
 
TNA said:
Well said. You seem to be talking a lot of sense lately Hedge. You had an accident recently or something? :p:D
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I just think a lot of people "cut their nose off to spite their face" so to speak. Games are meant to be played and enjoyed, once framerate becomes more important than fun then I think something has gone wrong.

Obviously I wouldnt like to play a game at 15fps but 30fps on a good (note the word "good") adventure type game is fine by me. More fps is always smoother, no doubt about it. But I couldnt imagine thinking "wow that game looks amazing, but Ill wait until 2025 in-case I put a framerate counter on and find out that I am only getting 120fps instead of 240"
 
tyler_jrb said:
I once tried BOTW at 60hz in 4k on emulator and the difference was ridiculous compared to switch. But for obvious reasons I played, completed and thoroughly enjoyed on the switch anyway. Same with rdr2, I had it on console but chose to wait for pc release. Which I do not regret one bit as it was an incredible experience at 4k 60hz.

You are quite correct though. A lot of people will spend hours and hours tweaking and adjusting games, resolution, framerate. Or perhaps won’t even play it because it doesn’t perform as expected instead of actually playing and enjoying the games themselves. Just one of the pains when you have been spoiled with the likes of high refresh rate and 4k 60hz.

I for one used to be like that, but now I very much play for the games themselves. There are many console games I’ve played at 30hz which I’ve enjoyed thoroughly. Obviously given the choice would I play on the pc at 4k 60hz or 1440p 165hz, yes.
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I did exactly the same with Zelda. I had the switch version and I tried the emulated one at 4k too. It looked and played way more smoothly. But the convenience and relaxed nature of playing on the switch meant the emu version was nothing more than a tech demo.

What's frustrating is so called "gamers" will sink 1400 quid on a gpu yet wouldn't spend a quarter of that to actually play some quality games that won't be available on their pc.

I like games therefore I'll buy whatever platforms I need to play them. I play AC:O and division 2 on my pc where they look and play best, then I play Last of Us, God of War and Spiderman on my ps4 Pro where they are perfectly playable and I have a more relaxed experience.

Chances are a lot of people on here spend their time in their bedroom and have a TV / pc side by side. I personally have a PC in one bedroom and a 58inch 4k TV in the living room. So I rarely can be arsed to plug a pc in downstairs.
 
GAC said:
so maybe next year 1400 for a new model maybe, so yeah give it a couple of years and 120hz maybe come a selling point for people then, but have to wait to see if theres ever a killer app on either consoles that will justify it for most.
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They have set the mark for their TVs now and with the fact that the TVs support gsync is going to mean more and more take the leap. Just a shame coronavirus will slow things this year I guess.

120hz oleds will likely be under a grand this time next year.

Linus did a video on their 77inch oled too and was mega impressed. It became his personal gaming screen.
 
Woodsta888 said:
For watching films and TV entertainment yes. Not ahead for gaming. Only the blacks from OLED panels are desirable from TV panels.

I'd love TV's to be a one stop shop for gaming and TV's. Nearly there but not quite there yet.
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My 4k FALD TV has been a way more fun gaming screen than my 165hz 1440p monitor.

I don't care about competitive gaming but Assassins Creed Origins, Resident Evil 2 and some console games like Horizon zero dawn and God of war take a massive steaming dump on what my monitor displays.

Sitting at my Pc is for my Dota 2 addiction and some Fps gaming. Everything else is done on my TV cos sitting back with a control pad on many games is more enjoyable.

That's just me anyway.
 
Well I watched the digital foundry video and thought it looked spectacular.

Anyone can start waffling on about how their 2k pc gets higher fps but as a full package of innovative technology this thing looks exciting.
 
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