Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny

Watched it a few days ago and it was a fun movie. I don't understand the negativity of some of the professional reviews.

ArcticHeron said:
Saw it last night and really enjoyed it. For me it's a classic example of people having their minds made up by the critics before the movie releases. Went in with very low expectations but left totally elated. The one criticism I have of the OG trilogy is that Indy's character is a little flatly written and that it's HFs performance that really helped shaped the movies into a legacy (as well as the excellent direction, obvs). In DoD his character felt a lot more human. It wasn't pure power fantasy fulfillment all the time.

Thought they stuck the landing hard as well. Can see why that ending might have put some people off, but I don't see how it's any more outlandish then those of the original trilogy. It worked for me in the same way those did.
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melmac said:
After reading this thread the general consensus seems to be "meh" Most of the reviews I have seen say its worse than "meh" Just funny looking at Rotten Tomatoes. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull gets 77% from Reviewers but only 53% from Audience. The Dial of Destiny only gets 69% from the Reviewers but 88% from the Audience scores. You got to wonder about these reviewers sometimes.

I haven't seen it myself but friends and family have and they all enjoyed it. Maybe my friends and family all have low standards
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They definitely went into the movie with low expectations. However, they said they were pleasantly surprised. Is it a classic by any means? Nope, but they said it was a proper Indiana Jones movie and a fun watch.

Looking forward to watching it when it comes out on Disney+ or Bluray.
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My thoughts exactly - Rotten Tomatoes user rating seems much higher. But Empire Magazine seemed to be reasonably accurate(as usual). Seems to the same feeling with most people I have known who watched it and its a bit of a nostalgia trip and a nice way to end the character arc,but you do need to have watched the earlier films. Maybe it's not gritty enough for the younger generation who want everything real and hardcore innit.

:P


Pawnless Endgame said:
I just got back from seeing this at the Stafford Odeon.

I loved the car chases, and especially the chase with the tuk-tuks. It had a James Bond feel to it, but the older style Bonds which I prefer anyway because it's less serious than the Daniel Craig ones. I liked the 1939 Nazy Germany train invasion near the start, again a James Bond feel to it, and the submerged / underwater bit in the middle of the film. On the Indiana Jones front, it reminded me of the Temple of Doom in places due to the Jones / lady / little boy set-up, and also the caves / mines bit near the end where it's crawling with insects and booby traps.

The Dial itself and its purpose reminds me of the Golden Compass (alethiometer) from His Dark Materials book trilogy by Philip Pullman.

I give this 8/10. Much MUCH better than the Crystal Skulls which I never really acknowledged as being part of the Indy Jones 'trilogy'.
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Its definitely better than the previous one.

adencool said:
Yesterday, I had the opportunity to watch a movie at the cinema, which was a perk of my health insurance that allows me to see one film per month for free. Initially, I was unsure about my decision to watch this particular movie due to the negative reviews and general discussion surrounding it. However, after seeing it, I found it to be a decent film overall. While some critics criticize it for its perceived "woke" values or for deviating from the style of the original Indiana Jones films, I personally found it to be an enjoyable experience. In my personal ranking, I would place it in third position among the five films in the series. Of course, it's hard to surpass the brilliance of the original film and "The Last Crusade," which I watched a few days ago and still stands out in my mind.

One aspect of the movie that impressed me was the de-aging technology, which has made significant advancements. Compared to films like "The Irishman" from a couple of years ago, where the de-aging effects often looked odd, this movie executed it exceptionally well. It was especially impressive considering that much of the action was likely performed by a stunt double, with the actor's face digitally mapped onto it. It made me dream about the possibilities, like having a James Bond film where viewers can choose their preferred Bond actor. For example, imagine watching "Goldfinger" with Roger Moore as James Bond!

However, the thing that stood out to me (totally minor). First, I noticed someone wearing ASICS trainers in 1966 Sicily, Additionally, at the beginning of the movie, there appeared to be an excessive use of Coca-Cola product placements, which felt somewhat distracting.

Overall, I had a good time watching the movie and appreciated the advancements in de-aging technology. While it had its flaws, it provided an enjoyable ride and secured a respectable spot in my personal ranking of the Indiana Jones films.
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The de-aging bit at the start of the movie,was a bit uncanny valley at some points. It was the same as in The Mandalorian.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Watched it a few days ago and it was a fun movie. I don't understand the negativity of some of the professional reviews.
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From what I gather, a lot of reviewers were shown this immediately after Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning

It shares some similaries, and I think it kinda pales in comparison to that because there's less real stunts and more obvious CGI. So that being the case you can kind of understand why they might have been a bit down on it.
 
VincentHanna said:
From what I gather, a lot of reviewers were shown this immediately after Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning

It shares some similaries, and I think it kinda pales in comparison to that because there's less real stunts and more obvious CGI. So that being the case you can kind of understand why they might have been a bit down on it.
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Empire were quite even on it,and I generally find their reviews reasonably on the money. Also people have to realise Harrison Ford is 81,and was in his late 70s when the film was being made.John Rhys-Davies is 79,etc so it's to be expected there are limitations to what can be done. I did find the de-ageing very uncanny valley like what was done with The Mandalorian,so it was distracting for me. It wasn't a perfect film,but its a fun film and I expected it to be a bit of a nostalgia trip.

It was the same with Top Gun:Maverick(which was a great experience in the cinema) - for the average person who has zero interest in the technical sides of aircraft it all seemed above board. As a person who has an interest in aviation photography like me,etc I had to stop unconsciously picking apart inconsistencies in some of the aviation scenes. The F14 is a legendary plane,but seriously against newer aircraft,a 45 year old airframe without manufacturer support,it most likely would have undergone structural failure in some of those scenes. That is if the TF30 engines didn't do the job before that happened(the F14 was underpowered and the engines were very sensitive to disturbed airflow - they were only meant to be a stop-gap AFAIK).It was the same with the original Top Gun,when its obvious the Mig28 is an Northrop F5,etc.

Also,ultimately Mission Impossible as a series is far more serious,and probably more technically grounded series anyway IMHO. Outside the OTT stunts,the technology sort of seems plausible in a sort of near future way,and it has always been cool...even the original 60s series is iconic.
 
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VincentHanna said:
From what I gather, a lot of reviewers were shown this immediately after Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning

It shares some similaries, and I think it kinda pales in comparison to that because there's less real stunts and more obvious CGI. So that being the case you can kind of understand why they might have been a bit down on it.
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I can smell the copium from here!

:D
 
VincentHanna said:
Copium? I've not seen the movie, nor do I care about it.

Indiana Jones is not my favourite set of movies. There's one really good film amongst five if you ask me and that was made in the 80's
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Going to turn the tables and ask a question that you seem to ask or like all the time when others post.

Then why are you here in this thread for an IP that you don’t care for or movie you haven’t seen???
 
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Because I always intended to watch it. Unlike you and the many movies/TV shows you seem to bash off incessantly in various threads.

However, judging by the reception and my ambivalence towards the series I doubt it's going to be very good.

Alas, my wife wasn't feeling well when it came out initially and then when she was better, mission impossible just came out and had rave reviews, so we saw that first instead.
 
I hold a very unpopular opinion in that I think Raiders of The Lost Ark is a masterpiece and it is in my top 10 movies ever, but I don't like any of the other Jones films and find them derivative and hokey in comparison.

I've never found anyone else who thinks this and people rave about the original trilogy with many people citing Last Crusade as their favourite. I watched crystal skulls but I won't be fooled again and have no interest in this because for me the franchise went downhill on the second outing never mind the 5th.

That fight in the truck in Ark is one of my favourite scenes in any film. The fact the commander punches Indy in his gunshot wound is exactly why that film is a cut above the others. Ark has comedy but it also had a grit that was dropped for wider audience appeal as the sequels went on. Shame...
 
MookJong said:
I hold a very unpopular opinion in that I think Raiders of The Lost Ark is a masterpiece and it is in my top 10 movies ever, but I don't like any of the other Jones films and find them derivative and hokey in comparison.

I've never found anyone else who thinks this
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Well you have now. I agree.
 
MookJong said:
That fight in the truck in Ark is one of my favourite scenes in any film. The fact the commander punches Indy in his gunshot wound is exactly why that film is a cut above the others. Ark has comedy but it also had a grit that was dropped for wider audience appeal as the sequels went on. Shame...
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I mentioned this in the film thread, but this one copies a lot of scenes from previous films.

That scene is repeated here, but rather than in a truck, it’s in the back of a plane.

This one definitely doesn’t have a women shoe horned in for wider audience appeal :mad:
 
C Kent said:
I thought people weren't allowed to post in threads about movies or TV shows if they weren't going to watch it? :p:cry:
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Poor Vincent he just can't help himself can he?

He must be exhausted, I've heard of Marvel Stans, SW Stans, White Knights for this and that but never someone Stanning for every IP and studio, in fact for an entire industry!!!...even the films and series he doesn't like!

:cry:
 
Darujhistan said:
Poor Vincent he just can't help himself can he?

He must be exhausted, I've heard of Marvel Stans, SW Stans, White Knights for this and that but never someone Stanning for every IP and studio, in fact for an entire industry!!!...even the films and series he doesn't like!

:cry:
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Yeah, look at all this "stanning"

VincentHanna said:
Ford is too old, it sounds like a CGI-fest.

Shame

Actually never really rated the originals to be honest. Last Crusade is probably the only one I enjoy a lot.
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VincentHanna said:
To be fair, Last Crusade seemed like a good place to leave it - Riding off in to the sun.
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VincentHanna said:
However, judging by the reception and my ambivalence towards the series I doubt it's going to be very good.
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Darujhistan said:
Poor Vincent he just can't help himself can he?

He must be exhausted, I've heard of Marvel Stans, SW Stans, White Knights for this and that but never someone Stanning for every IP and studio, in fact for an entire industry!!!...even the films and series he doesn't like!

:cry:
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If you’re going to continue to troll then I don’t see any benefit in allowing you to post in this thread any more.
 
Went to see this last week. A decent enough film, far better than Crystal Skull but that’s not difficult! A fine ending and no real issues. Reckon there were about 35-40 people there when I saw it.
 
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