How convenient
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care to explain ?
"Individual" club threads
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care to explain ?
Thats exactly what I was going to point out
Im also more than willing to give anything a try - I personally think it will make the forum more of a mess and more disjointed
Trolls can be sorted easily, And I'm sure I don't need to explain how.
Lack of community I have to disagree. The banter is great in here and is 99% of the time light hearted. If there is a decline in the sense of community then it can be put down to the trolls, hostile posting and all that is not very welcoming.
Just joking hence the smiley, alluding to the fact the "complaints" were conveniently for the same reason the threads are being closed.
Don't worry I trust you that that's what they said.
esentially, a lot of liverpool fans (Anderson i think you were referring to me) consider that i troll their thread. now i don't particularly feel that i'm trolling, more having a bit of a giggle and a wind up and i think anyone could tell you i've never said anything 'offensive'. if however someone had been compelled to leave because of me trolling for instance, then surely a word in my (or any other offenders ear) in the form of a warning or suspension would have been a good call before deciding to close down the threads for all. now i don't know if you have issued warnings to others but if you have i've not heard about it. that's just my 2c on the subject.
with regards to a loss of sense of community then obviously that's down to an individual posters opinion but i've got to know a lot of the Liverpool lads a lot better since the individual club threads opened up.
still i'll happily give the 'old' way a go and obviously i hope it improves the quality of the forum tough personally the Sports Arena is the forum i enjoy most on Ocuk.
thanks, yes lets give it a go, it isn't a personal crusade and if it doesn't work then so be it, we will take a hard line on people trying to make sure it doesn't work though
If you see G|mp online ask him, a lot of folks also explained these concerns to him prior to leaving
I don't understand what we're meant to do now though. If I wanted to start discussing a potential United lineup for a game in a few weeks, won't creating a thread about it just do the same as before and simply attract United fans? Simple things which fans like to discuss, which wern't worthy of their own thread could just be posted in the team threads.
I have seen Rotty's occasional tongue in cheek comments over the past year or so, along the lines of "why don't you post in the special official top secret united fans only thread". To me it just sounds like something the mods want rid of rather than considering other posters. Having a poll would be fairer no?
Whatever though, I do think it'll make the SA less active, football-wise at least.
I have seen Rotty's occasional tongue in cheek comments over the past year or so, along the lines of "why don't you post in the special official top secret united fans only thread". To me it just sounds like something the mods want rid of rather than considering other posters. Having a poll would be fairer no?
Whatever though, I do think it'll make the SA less active, football-wise at least.
I personally think different topics deserve their own threads, for example, each team could have separate threads on the following:
Best ever XI
Goalkeeping dilemma
Will we qualify for the CL
Are our ticket prices fair
How can we improve the atmosphere in the ground
Do we need another forward
Will we be bought out and will it improve things
Our ever growing injury list
Our cup final allocation
etc, etc
That is just a very quick list off the top of my empty head, but you get the point, if these, and many others are thrown into a big thread, it would become a mess over time.
Also, what if someone wants to bring up a subject, in order to see if it's been discussed before, they could end up trawling through hundreds of posts, probably thousands over time, instead of locating a relevant thread.
Anyway, I don't see the problem at the moment, let's just see how things go for now.
Best ever XI
Goalkeeping dilemma
Will we qualify for the CL
Are our ticket prices fair
How can we improve the atmosphere in the ground
Do we need another forward
Will we be bought out and will it improve things
Our ever growing injury list
Our cup final allocation
etc, etc
That is just a very quick list off the top of my empty head, but you get the point, if these, and many others are thrown into a big thread, it would become a mess over time.
Also, what if someone wants to bring up a subject, in order to see if it's been discussed before, they could end up trawling through hundreds of posts, probably thousands over time, instead of locating a relevant thread.
Anyway, I don't see the problem at the moment, let's just see how things go for now.
I personally think a poll should have been made before making the decision. If the majority really do think that these threads are detrimental to the forum then the poll would have showed that.
As we don't have the choice I suppose we'll just have to see how it goes, however, I do believe this will do the exact opposite way you intend it to. More mess and clutter, more segregation.
As we don't have the choice I suppose we'll just have to see how it goes, however, I do believe this will do the exact opposite way you intend it to. More mess and clutter, more segregation.
A lot of people that have realised the effect are no longer here
Not overly bothered if they stay or not; i see the point of having them for smaller club issues like injury updates etc but i have noticed on occasions people have ignored 'spoilers' threads and posted results etc in these threads which may not please people waiting for MOTD etc.
Ive mentioned it before but it never got off the ground, would it be possible to have a thread dedicated to injuries (and suspensions)?
Ive mentioned it before but it never got off the ground, would it be possible to have a thread dedicated to injuries (and suspensions)?
And how many's that? Like 3?
I honestly haven't noticed anything more than a couple of people leaving.
As you will know, you can't keep everyone happy, but why change it if the vast majority are?
doesn't sound unreasonable, we have similar during the transfer windows thoguh even these have been a bit unwieldy at times
Make it and see. I think it could work.
What's there to lose? (Apart from a few members.) j/k
Personally I think this is a bad idea as I quite look forward to reading and posting in my club's thread when it pops up from time to time (I actually came in here just for the first time in a couple of days planning on posting something I was thinking about at the end of the match in the Arsenal thread...)
The only logic I can see behind it is that there must be some kind concept of wanting posters to mix and post in a variety of threads rather than focussing on one particular one. This logic is somewhat flawed in my view, because it actually makes the forum somewhat quicker and easier to use as an end user - if there's a thread about club X, unless I have something specific to say or there is a hot topic surrounding that team, then I know I can safely bypass that thread and not waste my time trawling through many posts of little significance to me in the hope of finding something that piques my interest.
For a thread to keep me coming back for more it needs to hold something of interest to me. Not all threads involving all clubs can do this - a good example would be the summer transfer thread, which just ended up with pages and pages about the Carlos Tevez saga. I got so fed up I stopped checking it very often - that kind of thing would have sat nicely in a MU/WHU (or even Tevez!) specific thread.
The fact of the matter is, I'm now struggling to think of where to post certain stuff if there is no longer a thread about said club. If you have something to say, but it is not related to a recent match, where exactly does it fall? Worth making a new thread just to talk about team selection/news or a particular piece of transfer gossip (during periods when there is no main transfer thread)?
The day a forum cares more about people who are no longer here than those who are is the day I start getting worried.
The only logic I can see behind it is that there must be some kind concept of wanting posters to mix and post in a variety of threads rather than focussing on one particular one. This logic is somewhat flawed in my view, because it actually makes the forum somewhat quicker and easier to use as an end user - if there's a thread about club X, unless I have something specific to say or there is a hot topic surrounding that team, then I know I can safely bypass that thread and not waste my time trawling through many posts of little significance to me in the hope of finding something that piques my interest.
For a thread to keep me coming back for more it needs to hold something of interest to me. Not all threads involving all clubs can do this - a good example would be the summer transfer thread, which just ended up with pages and pages about the Carlos Tevez saga. I got so fed up I stopped checking it very often - that kind of thing would have sat nicely in a MU/WHU (or even Tevez!) specific thread.
The fact of the matter is, I'm now struggling to think of where to post certain stuff if there is no longer a thread about said club. If you have something to say, but it is not related to a recent match, where exactly does it fall? Worth making a new thread just to talk about team selection/news or a particular piece of transfer gossip (during periods when there is no main transfer thread)?
The day a forum cares more about people who are no longer here than those who are is the day I start getting worried.
i don't even think the club threads were that biased in terms of one club's fans only talking to the others. it just gives a rough framework to things. newcomers have just got to persevere with a few threads and someone will usually enagage them. i don't speak to anyone on this forum other than on here but i regularly post in all the club threads - i often exchange views with baz, gimp, et al - even though they don't pick up on my identity per se. that is a good thing in some ways and gets away from the old boys network that is present elsewhere on the forum.
the club threads also enable slight diversions in topic. for instance i might talk about villa in the liverpool thread if they played, or we might talk about transfers in theory etc.
just because new members make the choice not to engage with it for long enough does not warrant such actions.
the mods logic can be applied to so many other threads.
whilst i concede that their reasons are perhaps noble i don't think it is actually in the best interests of the forum. yes to have more random posters, but what about the core group (which is always increasing)?
saying it was better in the past forgets the numerous dire threads (which were probably good but only limited in stimulating discussion) for one or two golden ones.
the club threads also enable slight diversions in topic. for instance i might talk about villa in the liverpool thread if they played, or we might talk about transfers in theory etc.
just because new members make the choice not to engage with it for long enough does not warrant such actions.
the mods logic can be applied to so many other threads.
whilst i concede that their reasons are perhaps noble i don't think it is actually in the best interests of the forum. yes to have more random posters, but what about the core group (which is always increasing)?
saying it was better in the past forgets the numerous dire threads (which were probably good but only limited in stimulating discussion) for one or two golden ones.
I often thought to myself that they were actually good for the forum. It allows supporters of that specific club to engage conversation about future games, transfers, etc, and as aforementioned, people who support other clubs like myself might wander in and chat about the game prior to, and post match. I was going to start up a villa one, as I really thought they were a good idea, and it's nice to know other people's opinions on topics affecting your club.