"Individual" club threads

[BaZ87]

The fact of the matter is, I'm now struggling to think of where to post certain stuff if there is no longer a thread about said club. If you have something to say, but it is not related to a recent match, where exactly does it fall? Worth making a new thread just to talk about team selection/news or a particular piece of transfer gossip (during periods when there is no main transfer thread)?

Completely agree with this.

I was watching Liverpool's reserves earlier today and was thinking about posting a message about a few of the youngsters we've got coming through, forgetting there is no club threads any more. Is it worth starting a completely new thread for a small matter like this? Individual club threads are perfect for issues like ive mentioned where the news is only really relevance and of interest to fans of that club.

As i mentioned above, the only problem i could see with these threads were that some people would ignore the spoilers threads and posted about the game in them.

 

[freshy]

the last few days have been stale on this forum with regards to football threads, a result of the closure of the club threads. a distinctly bad move by the mods, regardless of what they might proclaim in my opinion.

 

[Rotty]

the last few days have been stale on this forum with regards to football threads, a result of the closure of the club threads. a distinctly bad move by the mods, regardless of what they might proclaim in my opinion.

feel free to start a thread or two

 

[NokkonWud]

I was thinking that too freshy.
I wanted to discuss the latest comments regarding Anderson and Man Utd but didn't feel it was thread creation material. I guess a lot of people are thinking the same for similar topics.

 

[G|mp]

I was thinking that too freshy.
I wanted to discuss the latest comments regarding Anderson and Man Utd but didn't feel it was thread creation material. I guess a lot of people are thinking the same for similar topics.

Start one then

 

[Ripper]

Have to agree, hardly any interesting football threads here recently. Only highlight of the past few weeks have been the spoilers threads. (Yes i'm aware there's more to SA than football before anyone says)

Regular posters who wern't active in the individual club threads happen to be mods, so the outcome isn't surprising.

The day a forum cares more about people who are no longer here than those who are is the day I start getting worried.

Bang on. I'm sorry these ex-posters (about 3-4 people?) feel that they needed to leave for whatever reasons, but in fairness so what? If they don't like it thats their problem.

I tried to start a couple of threads (Premiership XI and Referee's thread) but they've not been that active.

 

[JohnnyG]

Regular posters who wern't active in the individual club threads happen to be mods, so the outcome isn't surprising.

As Rotty said, it's still open to discussion and not all the mods were in favour but democracy rules

 

[G|mp]

I dont see the problem with how it is....

Still plenty of things to read/discuss and we dont have to read the same old people having the same old arguments week in week out, myself included in that

 

[Big Kev]

Sometimes it will go rather stale in here, it's been like that for years, but interesting topics will always stimulate debate, simple as that, club threads or not.

If some people are staying away because they can't have their own way, then they'll be back when they put all their toys back in the pram.

 

[freshy]

it is not about throwing toys out of the pram. look at the bigger picture for gods sake man.

starting threads at every opportunity (which dons can close at their will) is all well and good, but people do not want to invest in writing a thread if it will not stimulate interest. with the club threads we would have a place to write our musings, which other readers then had the chance to explore.

rotty - 'feel free to start a thread or two' - i am well aware that i can (just as much as i could leave if i wanted to). but that does not address the engagement within that thread. plus by suggesting one or two puts a limit on the level of opinion that could be expressed. the club threads did not do that. and it is not a matter of leaving the forum, rather getting the most out of it.

 

[weringo]

I've noticed no change in the increase of threads since the change, but as already mentioned the forums now dry up during the weekdays because we don't have club threads to discuss smaller matters in.

 

[Big Kev]

it is not about throwing toys out of the pram. look at the bigger picture for gods sake man.

There is no bigger picture, just some people throwing tantrums, the Sports Arena has been fine for years now, without club threads, so if it ain't broke, why fix it??

starting threads at every opportunity (which dons can close at their will) is all well and good, but people do not want to invest in writing a thread if it will not stimulate interest. with the club threads we would have a place to write our musings, which other readers then had the chance to explore.

Dons don't close threads at will, there is always a reason for such closures.

If a thread won't stimulate interest, then why should it be any different in one huge, unmanageable thread, the same members would/wouldn't be interested.

 

[Slogan]

Think it's a bad idea and an unnecessary change to tamper.

Can understand trolling gets on everyone's nerves, members and moderators (who have to clean it up) alike but the advantage of the individual club threads against the negatives of the trolling, far outweighs them.

If people want a reaction and want to troll, they'll find a way.

If trolling consists in any thread then punish the people involved - just like any sort of other inappropriate posting is dealt with in the other forums.

 

[Rotty]

under the "individual" system if I wanted a quick look at something I had to wade through pages and pages, posts were not in any order that resembled topics and it was very hard work for a more casual poster to get involved and become part of the community

as many have said , nothing is permanent but a couple of weeks is nothing like time needed to make a decision

 

[freshy]

There is no bigger picture, just some people throwing tantrums, the Sports Arena has been fine for years now, without club threads, so if it ain't broke, why fix it??



Dons don't close threads at will, there is always a reason for such closures.

If a thread won't stimulate interest, then why should it be any different in one huge, unmanageable thread, the same members would/wouldn't be interested.

with all due respect - yet again you have intimated we are throwing tantrums and yet again have failed to pick up on the main points. yes there is a bigger picture... that in the club thread a group of seemingly random musings gels together to stimulate a debate, which would not happen with a single thread. it is not as if many of these topics are separate entities, there is consdierable overlap. in essence even one general football thread would be better to house all these seemingly irreverant comments that often stem into something more.

it may have been fine in the past but i don't think there was ever as much stringent debate on small issues as there was with the club threads. furthermore it's all subjective - many don't think it was broke with the club threads.

of course as mods i respect your decision and of course your motives will be pure (if somewhat misguided in my opinion); i am still going to post whatever happens, it is just a matter of it being different. i just can't believe you can't see the other side

 

[Rotty]

with all due respect - yet again you have intimated we are throwing tantrums and yet again have failed to pick up on the main points. yes there is a bigger picture... that in the club thread a group of seemingly random musings gels together to stimulate a debate, which would not happen with a single thread. it is not as if many of these topics are separate entities, there is consdierable overlap. in essence even one general football thread would be better to house all these seemingly irreverant comments that often stem into something more.

it may have been fine in the past but i don't think there was ever as much stringent debate on small issues as there was with the club threads. furthermore it's all subjective - many don't think it was broke with the club threads.

of course as mods i respect your decision and of course your motives will be pure (if somewhat misguided in my opinion); i am still going to post whatever happens, it is just a matter of it being different. i just can't believe you can't see the other side

there is no hidden agenda and the reasons explained are the genuine ones, we gave one way a try, lets give the other way a try and then we can see which is best, no one has ever said that this is set in stone forever and of the single thread method turns out to be the best for the forum then that is fine

 

[Irish_Tom]

Someone obviously didn't like my post (it wasn't supposed to be antagonistic maybe I should have put a smiley in it.)

I would try to re-iterate the point without trying to offend anyone but I think my stance on the subject is clear.

Panzer

 

[Slogan]

as many have said , nothing is permanent but a couple of weeks is nothing like time needed to make a decision

Well to be fair, when you discuss it amongst the moderators who have to clean up and deal with every 'tantrum' that comes along in the Sports Forum, you're not going to get a true insight into how valuable the threads are to the forum in general.

I can partly understand why you have came to the conclusion that these threads can cause issues but I don't agree with the decision to wipe them out. Most of what is said in those threads is tongue in cheek from people who have been here long along to take it as much and get on with it. Those who insist on 'badger-baiting' and pushing the issue beyond a bit of light-heartedness should be suitably punished by yourselves. It cuts out the crap and sends a message to those who are chancing their arm.

These threads do anything but 'stifle discussion'. At worst they invite people of the respective clubs to come in and give their opinion on something at any point in a season - whether it's an injury, suspension, big game, manager issue or any other discussion going on at the time.

Excluding others isn't something I can see either - anyone can go into their team thread and post their views. It's one of the few places that is likely to have people sharing the same view or people who support the same club - members can be more reluctant to post in threads that have all types of supporters within them.

The fact it attracts trolls is just a forum. The same way a PS3 exclusive games thread is likely to attract someone who enjoys their Xbox 360 a little too much.

 

[Gilly]

The problem is, we moderators don't want to have to read through page after page of threads about clubs we don't care about. Reading 8 pages of turgid nonsense and conjecture regarding Spurs and their nearly signing world class players or Newcastle and their never winning anything ever is really, really boring

These threads are dull. Very dull. No-one but the fans of the club in question and the mods reads them. Individual threads mean someone will browse because of the subject rather than the club. much better

 

[Irish_Tom]

Couldn't the whole case have been put forward to us like that right from the start?

If you had told us the threads were getting closed because it's easier to moderate individual threads then I for one would have accepted it far easier than all of the other excuses in the OP.

Panzer