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Instead of slating Nvidia...

If TSMC's 40nm manufacturing process is so inefficient, then why not contract GlobalFoundries to do the job instead?
 
Not ready yet, and no time soon I gather (takes a LOT of time to setup a new process). But when they are, I guess that TSMC can GTFO :D

I was under the impression that ATi 6xxx will be GF, and that the GF 32nm process is due to be ready 2nd half of year.
GF aren't going to make stuff for NV though, not cheaply at least seeing as they are part owned by AMD :)
 
I was under the impression that ATi 6xxx will be GF, and that the GF 32nm process is due to be ready 2nd half of year.
GF aren't going to make stuff for NV though, not cheaply at least seeing as they are part owned by AMD :)

Personally I don't think ATi will be using the 32nm process for their next gen, poss the refresh of that. And when GF say '2nd half of 2010' you have to be a little generous & not expect them to have it rolling out 100k chips a day on 1st July :D

This is complex stuff we're talking about after all....

(just ask nVidia ;))
 
Personally I don't think ATi will be using the 32nm process for their next gen, poss the refresh of that. And when GF say '2nd half of 2010' you have to be a little generous & not expect them to have it rolling out 100k chips a day on 1st July :D

This is complex stuff we're talking about after all....

(just ask nVidia ;))

GF started taking orders for 32nm last year, and H2 2010 was the date given for when they can mass manufacture, rather than just first testing.
I expect for half of 6xxx series to be 40nm and half to be 32nm, with the 40nm parts switching to 32nm eventually and 32nm perhaps moving to 28nm.
 
Nvidia's head refused to deal with Global because he considers them competition.

I think he said,

GL are AMD right ?, then our future is with TSMC.

From what it seems Glo Flo are very near ready.
 
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- Fake cards passed of as the real thing
- Locking out AA on competitors cards in certain super hero games
- Removal of PhysX support if a Geforce card isn't the primary display card
- Outrageous pricing
- Old GPU's that are forever getting renamed and repackaged but are essentially the same
- Blacklisting of review sites like [H] when they reported on the GTS250 as a rebranded 9800GTX.

There are other minor things like...

Yeah I still don't feel like being a fan of one corporation or another but I definitely feel some professional skepticism towards one of them in particular. Fermi's troubles will be good for us if ATI catches up some more with Nvidia. Ideally we want them both with roughly equal market share, fighting neck and neck, I think Nvidia are still way ahead.
 
Part of the problem ATi face is the brainwashing that the Nvidia botnet have been led to believe, they still think ATi has major driver problems, catalyst profiles are rubbish, crossfire is buggy etc etc etc etc, then more drones believe it and go and buy NV on that basis.

I had 4850CF and a 4870X2 before, and they were super fast with no problems, I can only assume the 5 series is the same.
 
Yeah I still don't feel like being a fan of one corporation or another but I definitely feel some professional skepticism towards one of them in particular. Fermi's troubles will be good for us if ATI catches up some more with Nvidia. Ideally we want them both with roughly equal market share, fighting neck and neck, I think Nvidia are still way ahead.

It's getting really close to an equal share already.
 
Part of the problem ATi face is the brainwashing that the Nvidia botnet have been led to believe, they still think ATi has major driver problems, catalyst profiles are rubbish, crossfire is buggy etc etc etc etc, then more drones believe it and go and buy NV on that basis.

I had 4850CF and a 4870X2 before, and they were super fast with no problems, I can only assume the 5 series is the same.

this kind of reports come from users themselves unfortunately. ati used to have major driver problems and they still pay the price for that.

ati does their sort of brainwashing with their "open" crap even if they require ati hardware or they are very far from implementation. ati spends much less in funding developers as well something that pc gaming badly needs.

we need both ati and nvidia and they are equally bad. do you prefer nvidia's "evil" market controlling tactics but at least they are honest, thats what they do and endless of other companies do the same or ati's hypocrisy and "holier than you attitude"? i prefer neither but thats business for you.
 
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this kind of reports come from users themselves unfortunately. ati used to have major driver problems and they still pay the price for that.
NV had driver problems too, I remember having to struggle with NV crappy drivers when it came to the XP to Vista switch over - ATi had drivers on release day :)
I also remember the shocking NV drivers back in Riva TNT2 Ultra days!

ati spends much less in funding developers as well something that pc gaming badly needs.
Why does the PC gaming industry need funding from NV or ATi? What is wrong with them making games themselves and selling them for a nice profit.
 
NV had driver problems too, I remember having to struggle with NV crappy drivers when it came to the XP to Vista switch over - ATi had drivers on release day :)
I also remember the shocking NV drivers back in Riva TNT2 Ultra days!


Why does the PC gaming industry need funding from NV or ATi? What is wrong with them making games themselves and selling them for a nice profit.

microsoft funds gaming developers, so does nintendo and sony way more than any pc hardware company. pc gaming is falling behind because of that. they used to say that the pc gaming hardware industry is laughing behind the software's industry back. things are changing though.
 
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