Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread

Things change I've changed · 23 May 2020 at 14:46

RavenXXX2 said:
£200 for the 10600k would be a high recommendation but £274, nah.

Agreed, Intel have got the pricing all wrong on these chips, even with an inferior chip they could easily compete at the right price.

silvagti · 23 May 2020 at 15:04

Minibiker said:
Yeah the 10600k does look good but for near on £100 more than the 3600 I don't think I'd consider it... Its at the same price as the 3700x which has more cores and threads, also there is a big TDP difference in the two.

Those were my thoughts. Plus with AMD B550 motherboards out next month and looking substantially cheaper than the Intel equivalents.

Silicon Si · 23 May 2020 at 16:45

I won't be buying one no PCIe 4! what a waste. its called drip feeding.

Deleted User 456458 · 23 May 2020 at 17:02

Since a lot of people here are generally confused on the different power related terms and intel, this should answer a lot of questions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4th6YElNm5w

CuriousTomCat · 23 May 2020 at 17:44

I would have been impressed if Intel increased their core count in 2016 before they had competition. They could have easily released a 6c12t Core i5 and an 8c16t Core i7. Doing it in retaliation like this looks so two faced and full of reluctancy. How pathetic does this make them look?

OG Don Mecca · 23 May 2020 at 18:44

Silicon Si said:
I won't be buying one no PCIe 4! what a waste. its called drip feeding.

I was thinking the same thing

3000 series Nvidia cards are PCIE 4.0

and there the only reason was going to upgrade now ready for them in Sept (rumour)

looks like it either 3800x for me or wait for 4800x........

humbug · 23 May 2020 at 19:00

Its a good CPU but £275 and its not as if you can drop this in a £70 Motherboard and run it under a £20 cooler.

The whole platform needs of this is priced high end, this is a very long way from a £250 to £300 mainstream platform that most of us like. Intel are not really bringing the price down here, they still want a high premium for the name.

Gabbatek · 23 May 2020 at 21:01

Such a mess up by intel. So the i7 10 is similar to the 9900k and the 10900k is the last drops they can squeeze out of the architecture.

At least if it had pcie 4 it would be a considerable upgrade, now i'll wait until the 3 series cards are out and see what cpu is the best at the time.

So very disappointed in the release and the pricing both by intel and all retailers.

Dead on arrival

Panos · 23 May 2020 at 21:54

Gabbatek said:
Such a mess up by intel. So the i7 10 is similar to the 9900k and the 10900k is the last drops they can squeeze out of the architecture.

At least if it had pcie 4 it would be a considerable upgrade, now i'll wait until the 3 series cards are out and see what cpu is the best at the time.

So very disappointed in the release and the pricing both by intel and all retailers.

Dead on arrival

If you consider pcie 4.0 with Intel, Z590 and 11 series would be around the corner in 5 months.

Gerard · 23 May 2020 at 22:49

Just me or has the 10900k snuck up by an additional tenner?

RavenXXX2 · 23 May 2020 at 22:54

They are all up in price, seems to be ocuk only.

Dave2150 · 23 May 2020 at 22:58

Gabbatek said:
Such a mess up by intel. So the i7 10 is similar to the 9900k and the 10900k is the last drops they can squeeze out of the architecture.

At least if it had pcie 4 it would be a considerable upgrade, now i'll wait until the 3 series cards are out and see what cpu is the best at the time.

So very disappointed in the release and the pricing both by intel and all retailers.

Dead on arrival

Ryzen's not that much better, it's slower in gaming that Intel's 5 year old Skylake architecture. Both vendors are equally pathetic - AMD for not being able to beat 14nm Skylake garbage in gaming, and Intel for being stuck on 14nm/Skylake.

Now is a bad time to buy a CPU, wait for Intel's proper next gen (Rocket and Alder lake), these have a 15-20% IPC improvement and will be the leap forward in gaming performance many care about.

RavenXXX2 · 23 May 2020 at 23:01

Zen 3 will wipe Intel out on all fronts.

Dave2150 · 23 May 2020 at 23:16

RavenXXX2 said:
Zen 3 will wipe Intel out on all fronts.

Zen 2 should have - AMD's brand new architecture should have bettered Intel across the board, not just in niche heavily threaded apps that the vast majority don't use.

Zen 3 needs around 25-30% IPC to secure a win over Intel's next gen (willow cove) CPU's.

Gabbatek · 23 May 2020 at 23:27

Dave2150 said:
Ryzen's not that much better, it's slower in gaming that Intel's 5 year old Skylake architecture. Both vendors are equally pathetic - AMD for not being able to beat 14nm Skylake garbage in gaming, and Intel for being stuck on 14nm/Skylake.

Now is a bad time to buy a CPU, wait for Intel's proper next gen (Rocket and Alder lake), these have a 15-20% IPC improvement and will be the leap forward in gaming performance many care about.

Can't, i'm on a laptop with a 9880k / 2080 and it thermals so bad that hp want it for service under warranty. I was hoping to get a new system when the new nvidia cards are out just before the warranty ends

Sargatanas2511 · 23 May 2020 at 23:39

Dave2150 said:
Ryzen's not that much better, it's slower in gaming that Intel's 5 year old Skylake architecture. Both vendors are equally pathetic - AMD for not being able to beat 14nm Skylake garbage in gaming, and Intel for being stuck on 14nm/Skylake.

Now is a bad time to buy a CPU, wait for Intel's proper next gen (Rocket and Alder lake), these have a 15-20% IPC improvement and will be the leap forward in gaming performance many care about.

Zen 2 beats Skylake most of the time now so that's a weird argument and a lot do more than just game. You must work for Intel to know they will have a 15-20% IPC improvement too.

I bought a 3900X and am very happy with it for gaming and everything else I use it for. I don't care that I get 80fps instead of 86 in one game and 120 instead of 125 in another.

xb8browney · 24 May 2020 at 00:06

I was so close to pulling the trigger on an 10900k. I'll be staying team blue since all I use my pc for is gaming.

Grim5 · 24 May 2020 at 00:15

Robert896r1 said:
Since a lot of people here are generally confused on the different power related terms and intel, this should answer a lot of questions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4th6YElNm5w

The thing is that many boards disregard Intel's TDP and enable all the stock enhancement features (short of actual overclocking) by default. So your casual 10900k owner puts this in his PC and loads optimized default bios and then he runs any multicore workload the CPU jumps t0 280w

Perfect_Chaos · 24 May 2020 at 00:16

Sargatanas2511 said:
Zen 2 beats Skylake most of the time now so that's a weird argument and a lot do more than just game. You must work for Intel to know they will have a 15-20% IPC improvement too.

I bought a 3900X and am very happy with it for gaming and everything else I use it for. I don't care that I get 80fps instead of 86 in one game and 120 instead of 125 in another.

The games Digital Foundry tested again seem to show the biggest advantage to Intel right now.

Though those who game at 4k probably don't care either way, i game at 1440p high hz so hoping Zen 3 is a big boost personally.

Grim5 · 24 May 2020 at 00:16

Dave2150 said:
Now is a bad time to buy a CPU, wait for Intel's proper next gen (Rocket and Alder lake), these have a 15-20% IPC improvement and will be the leap forward in gaming performance many care about.

Why are you still spouting lies? All rocket lake leaks show IPC is worse than Comet lake. I dare you to show me a single source that has even 1% IPC improvement, I'll eat my hat