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Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread

humbug said:
If you're in need get a Motherboard you're going to like for the next few years and drop a Ryzen 3600 in it for now, that will clear your performance issues up in the mean time and its cheap, you can sell it when Zen 3 hits.
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Don't give away your (and my) plans we won't be able to sell our 3600s if everyone is getting one now.
 
So to round up, the flagship processor is not really much of a gain on the 9900k for gaming (or for that matter then 3900x) and outside of gaming it gets its transistors handed to it by the 3900x and the 3950x brings a dump truck full of poop to pour over it.
Ohh and then there is MCE back, yes i use it - i dont care much but lets be honest... its an overclock and when you do that your little cpu is just a few degrees away from nuclear fusion*



*added for dramatic effect.
 
sideways14a said:
So to round up, the flagship processor is not really much of a gain on the 9900k for gaming (or for that matter then 3900x) and outside of gaming it gets its transistors handed to it by the 3900x and the 3950x brings a dump truck full of poop to pour over it.
Ohh and then there is MCE back, yes i use it - i dont care much but lets be honest... its an overclock and when you do that your little cpu is just a few degrees away from nuclear fusion*



*added for dramatic effect.
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That is why I said, except 1 motherboard, the rest Z490s have by default MCE active. So the CPU is overclocked from the start. Which is why I say with the same argument, CPPC needs to be activated on the Ryzen 3000 it runs against. I won't be surprised if the 3800X can beat this one since it can clock to 4750 with good cooling (240-360mm AIO same as the tested 10900K) and CPPC ON. No PBO or XFR or other overclocking, just Preferred Cores to trigger the system to use the best cores when playing games and not some generic low speed one.

We see this also on CB20. If someone looks at it, CB20 single core benchmark can split the load between 2 cores, one been slow one. Windows 10 scheduler magic......
 
Guru3d has this footnote on the conclusion of the review
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i9-10900k-processor-review,31.html

Life span
One thing I do like to address is the life-span of this platform. Comet Lake-S and Rocket-Lake-S will be the only two generations processors that will work on the LGA1200 series motherboards. That means you will not be able to upgrade fast based on your motherboard. Next year in 2021 architectures like Alder Lake-S already have been scheduled, it's mentioned that the pin count once again will change to 1700, a socket LGA1700. So while LGA1200 has just been introduced it will last roughly one year before becoming obsolete as an upgrade path.
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So nothing new, especially since the 10900K is just paper launch (source Hardware Unboxed review) with limited run CPUs just for reviews, like the 9900KS.

Btw nobody has mentioned that the 10900K cannibalizes the X299 platform yet :P
 
wookiee87 said:
no worries :), tbh the x299 would make more sense to buy purely down to extra pci-e lanes the cpu supports (48) a 10900x can be had for £539 and boards are cheaper too than z490
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And lets not forget

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skiersteve123 said:
tempted to go for the 10700k, I have a 6700k at 4.7 but cod and battlefield are stuttery as heck, check hwinfo and cpu is absoutley maxed on every core, I have 2070s and play at 1440p but if the frametime and minimums improve which im guessing they will it will be worth it, ooorrr could go the 3700x route and upgrade zen 4 when it comes out, eugh choices :( only use pc for gaming otherwise Id take the plunge on amd
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You could buy a 3600, mobo and ram for the cost of that cpu alone O_o
 
Techdeals has a really good review.

They tested a whole bunch of newer games and what they did was run all games with Vulkun when it was available (because Vulkun is much better than DirectX at removing bottlenecks so the CPU can breath) and the 3900x puts up a very good show, even beating the 10900k in a some games

They also said they had to change their cooling, the usual 280mm aio test bench was a total failure and they had to upgrade to a 360mm and even with this, the 10900k still hit 101c on a single Cinebench r20 run. Intel's high end no longer has the "who cares I'll just overclock it" mantra - AMD is super close but because of how far the 10900k is already pushed gamers just won't be able to get anymore out of it without advanced exotic cooling
 
Genuine question
Has anyone seen the status on security flaw mitigations on Comet Lake? Noticed no mention of them in reviews
 
That guy has multiple 480 rads water cooling loop.

I’m probably gonna get an Apex and have a go with my CW 5200 chiller
 
alec said:
Genuine question
Has anyone seen the status on security flaw mitigations on Comet Lake? Noticed no mention of them in reviews
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Parts of it are included already, but mostly are coming with the Windows 2004 kernel.
That is also why you see a 5%-6% core clock advantage over the 9900K been evaporated to handful fps.
 
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