It's $350 vs $1200 though right, in uk prices it's £380 vs £1267 for a similar materials cost.
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Intel Arc series unveiled with the Alchemist dGPU to arrive in Q1 2022
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Caporegime
Lower end GPU's from AMD or Nvidia aren't going to be out until well in to next year, the choices are what they are now, not in 6 months.
Are you me
Have amd confirmed that?
Caporegime
Not that i'm aware of ^^^
The size and cost of the GPU when at AMD Raja punk'd "Poor Volta" at us with the heap of junk it was was not met with any empathy, and rightly so.
How is this different? Why now are we to be expected to empathise with Intel and forgive them for over charging?
The size and cost of the GPU when at AMD Raja punk'd "Poor Volta" at us with the heap of junk it was was not met with any empathy, and rightly so.
How is this different? Why now are we to be expected to empathise with Intel and forgive them for over charging?
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Your not but you pick the lesser of evils or sack it off all together
Caporegime
Who is the lesser of evils?
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Right now ? You really don’t think that’s nvidia?
Could be amd if they do third briefing like nvida but common sense will prevail hopefully
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Caporegime
Between Intel and Nvidia, for sure, yes i do, i just wish people had seen that as i did years ago...
And that’s what iv said at the very begging of our little debate I built my first pc 10 years ago and only now am I getting up to speed so your perspective is vastly different to
Mine, mine is barely worth a look at to be fair im just going off what iv read online none stop for weeks recently.
Top and bottom of it is we need one of the 3 teams to aggressively go at the other one otherwise it will be the new norm.
Caporegime
We need to challenge Intel to do better and not just ok them overpricing unproven GPU's.
At the same time, and this needs to include tech journalists, we have to be far more supportive of AMD at the higher end.
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It's not really overpriced though when you take into account production costs + RnD so Intel are actually losing money on these besides they can always just prices downwards if people don't buy.
AMD need to earn that support at the high end rather than just matching Nvidias performance but 50 quid cheaper.
Many people have only ever bought nvidia cards and for those spending say 800 quid on one then AMD coming in and offering the same performance with worse RT and no DLSS for £50 cheaper is just not appealing.
Nvidia have given AMD a massive opportunity this time to lure RTX customers with the 4080 pricing being so ridiculous while also allowing generous price bump from the 6000 series. Price the 7800 ~ 7800XT to around £650 and £800 and they will do well but any higher and people will just buy nvidia or nothing at all.
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Caporegime
Again that is an Intel problem, we are not Intel's personal piggy-bank.
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Another one here
Intel Arc A770 And A750 Graphics Cards - They're Finally Here!
Intel is finally beginning to ship Arc A770 and A750 graphics cards to tech pubs and we're days away from being able to show you our independent test results...
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Unconfirmed A770 £ sterling price and unconfirmed performance, other than that your post is spot on... we're all working on semi-assumptions at the moment, it's just a few more days before we'll know for sure what the price for us and the performance of the card is, then we can start with recommendations.
In terms of the hardware on the card intel are giving you more for the price than both nvidia and AMD.
Caporegime
Erm? No..... ^^^^ really no.
Intel have announced the price, its $329 for the 8GB one and $349 for the 16GB one, they themselves claim its = to an RTX 3060Ti, because that starts at $413 it looks good if those performance claims are true.
However the RX 6650XT is about the same performance as the RTX 3060Ti and starts at $300.
Yes, you're right its all semi-assumptions, the thing is tho Intel themselves are making a lot of noise around performance and pricing, just a few days ago Pat was banging on about how "GPU's" are too expensive and Intel are going to rescue us all, i'm paraphrasing of course, but only the last bit, and they are ignoring a giant imposing elephant, its big, its red and in Pat's context its taking up the entire room, but Pat is pretending its not there. Because in the context of what Pat is trying to project Intel isn't the one and he knows it.
Intel have announced the price, its $329 for the 8GB one and $349 for the 16GB one, they themselves claim its = to an RTX 3060Ti, because that starts at $413 it looks good if those performance claims are true.
However the RX 6650XT is about the same performance as the RTX 3060Ti and starts at $300.
Yes, you're right its all semi-assumptions, the thing is tho Intel themselves are making a lot of noise around performance and pricing, just a few days ago Pat was banging on about how "GPU's" are too expensive and Intel are going to rescue us all, i'm paraphrasing of course, but only the last bit, and they are ignoring a giant imposing elephant, its big, its red and in Pat's context its taking up the entire room, but Pat is pretending its not there. Because in the context of what Pat is trying to project Intel isn't the one and he knows it.
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If Intel give AMD/NVIDIA a big kick up the bum then they might push them out earlier, but the schedule that I've heard, is that they'll drop each SKU about a month after the higher one.
A 6650XT isn't the same performance as a 3060ti which is around 10-15% faster so if your getting more performance and double the VRAM + the AV1 encoder for $50 more then it don't look a bad deal to me.
Intels meant to be faster at ray tracing so I'm guessing that would push people towards intel, especially since AMD are crap at RT
also a770 is faster than a 3060ti according to intel so.... seems like an obvious choice
How many people are put off from AMD cards purely because they are dog mess at ray tracing? I'm guessing a lot
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