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Intel Arc series unveiled with the Alchemist dGPU to arrive in Q1 2022

arknor said:
Made up that the CEO was on stage supporting the product and no signs anything is cancelled okay dood.

there's more reasons for intel to keep making GPUs than not and 3 generations of cards were already budgeted for.

but yeas clearly moores law idiot with a history of posting absolute crap for views is 100% correct, you can always trust a clickbaiter
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Of course he would. He wouldn’t stand up there and say “come and buy our GPU before we can it”! I’m not saying it’s happening, I’d be quite happy for another competitor in the market.
 
Intel never officially cancel anything, they just string you along until you get bored and then quietly drop it.

ARC isn't cancelled anyway, not yet and not for a couple of years probably, if its not working out they will keep it going in small meaningless volume and just not develop future generations.
 
humbug said:
Why so keen on getting Intel on to another 0 margin venture? Don't they have enough problems as it is?
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Even if they made no profit on consoles, developers would learn how to get performance out of the Intel chips and Intel would learn more about how to improve the chips which would translate to the desktop/server’s markets. Just having a large base help’s, it helped AMD and is also good marketing.
 
FredFlint said:
How exactly would they do that? They would be fools to ignore them.
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If AMD / Nvidia see them as a serious threat they wouldn't be ignoring them.

Intel's GPU's have lower performance per transistor compared with out going generations, we are having to assume Intel fixed all of their problems, that their performance claim are true and scale across all game, not just the ones Intel selected, and assume people will give Intel the benefit of the doubt and buy unproven products over the establishment.

That is a lot of mental gymnastics we have to go through before we can agree Intel would sell them in any amounts that AMD / Nvidia would even notice. If they do do you think they will just sit on their hands watching it happen? No they will dump something on the market that completely kills ARC stone dead, AMD / Nvidia aren't going to let Intel gain any traction and unlike Intel they can do that without losing any money, right now some are doing loops in their head to convince themselves better GPU's for the same or less money don't already exist.

PS: Intel know this.... its why its effectively dead, because they can't fight that off and they know it.
 
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humbug said:
If AMD / Nvidia see them as a serious threat they wouldn't be ignoring them.

Intel's GPU's have lower performance per transistor compared with out going generations, we are having to assume Intel fixed all of their problems, that their performance claim are true and scale across all game, not just the ones Intel selected, and assume people will give Intel the benefit of the doubt and buy unproven products over the establishment.

That is a lot of mental gymnastics we have to go through before we can agree Intel would sell them in any amounts that AMD / Nvidia would even notice. If they do do you think they will just sit on their hands watching it happen? No they will dump something on the market that completely kills ARC stone dead, AMD / Nvidia aren't going to let Intel gain any traction and unlike Intel they can do that without losing any money, right now some are doing loops in their head to convince themselves better GPU's for the same or less money don't already exist.

PS: Intel know this.... its why its effectively dead, because they can't fight that off and they know it.
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OEM's decide what sells in volume and all they care about is money, AMD/NV will have to undercut Intel to lock them out, AMD might do this but NV will not as they demand high prices. Intel’s first few gen's will probably not do well but they know they need a GPU to compete in too many markets so they are not going anywhere. Intel has a proven track record for selling poor product in volume to OEM's. I would not be surprised if a big OEM has them in the default configuration for entry level and mid-level PC’s.
 
i'd imagine that this generation will be purely enthusiast purchaces looking for a novelty card or card for a second or third machine mainly based on curiosity. next gen i can see them pushing hard with SIs to get some marketshare third generation i'd expect them to be taking 15% of the market.

dont discount team blue, if they want this to succeed then it will whether they want to commit long term to the GPU market is a totally different ball game,

That said if intel can actually put a decent performance gpu into the market with good 1080p/1440p performance at a price less than amd or Nvidia they might just clean up and take a very healthy chunk, Nvidia has lost the plot with high end pricing this new gen, whether its down to greed or a lack of actual Product and they want to stifle demand/keep revenue up i dont know put people are looking elsewhere and a lot of people out there dont fancy AMD, Intel has the name if they can get a half decent card with well supported drivers they could take a massive bite out the market
 
FredFlint said:
OEM's decide what sells in volume and all they care about is money, AMD/NV will have to undercut Intel to lock them out, AMD might do this but NV will not as they demand high prices. Intel’s first few gen's will probably not do well but they know they need a GPU to compete in too many markets so they are not going anywhere. Intel has a proven track record for selling poor product in volume to OEM's. I would not be surprised if a big OEM has them in the default configuration for entry level and mid-level PC’s.
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You're right, they do, They have been doing that to AMD for years trying to stop them from gaining traction in datacentre and client, they have failed in that. AMD's margins are now higher than Intel's while their revenue is falling as fast as AMD's is growing, AMD now have a higher market cap than Intel, AMD just bought Xilinx for $40 Billion, that is the highest semiconductor purchase in history, Intel are winding down segments of their empire they can't afford to keep afloat anymore.

How long can Intel keep this going and take on not just more of AMD but also Nvidia doing the same? Intel are an ailing company.

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humbug said:
How long can Intel keep this going and take on not just more of AMD but also Nvidia doing the same? Intel are an ailing company.
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all it shows is intel need graphics cards for datacentres
random_matt said:
Well, at least I know who will have some. The FE vendor said they are under NDA, cannot say anything.
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well, unless you signed one then you arent
 
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Believe what I said is being misinterpreted. I merely said I asked a prominent store about the cards because I was unsure who would be selling them. They said they cannot talk about the product, so I assume they will in fact have them on release date. Jeez.
 
random_matt said:
Believe what I said is being misinterpreted. I merely said I asked a prominent store about the cards because I was unsure who would be selling them. They said they cannot talk about the product, so I assume they will in fact have them on release date. Jeez.
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So you know there is a store that will not tell you about the product - what helpful info is that to anyone? You're taking from that that store will have them on release date... so we now know that there is a random store that may or may not be selling a card on release. So the same info we had before your post and the same info for every electrical store in the world!! :D

We're just about to find out what's actually happening, so i think people are checking here for more and more info and posts like that are just a bit naff so people are gonna take the **** a bit of course.
 
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