Soldato
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I literally change all my pads and thermal paste eventually, that card is a nightmare. I am also astonished about the effort and cost of that led strip.
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Intel Arc series unveiled with the Alchemist dGPU to arrive in Q1 2022
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If Linus wants to buy me one I'll have oneLinus" Please buy this car it has 3 good wheels and one wonkly, but Intel might get it fixed before it falls off"
Yes Linus I will buy half a dozen, just for you because you asked nicey.
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I have a feeling nobody will buy these and they will be sent to OEM builds. Actually, will there even be a gen 2 card? What if they sell very little cards?If Linus wants to buy me one I'll have one
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Then we will be stuck with the Jensen Su and Lisa Huang extortion racket.
Soldato
WTH did I just watch?
Why on earth have they obviously spent so much money on making something so unnecessarily complicated and cumbersome to dismantle.
Hell, my 1080 is getting on now and I had to replace one of the fans a good while back - it took minutes. That thing looks more trouble than it's worth even attempting.
Perf/transistors is a metric where Arc is world class (sarc):
So we might all be saving that Intel's value for money is lacking but that's because we are thinking in terms of value/perf, if we were thinking in terms of value/transistors then they come out on top!
Although what consumers want with transistors inefficiently used, I am not sure!
So we might all be saving that Intel's value for money is lacking but that's because we are thinking in terms of value/perf, if we were thinking in terms of value/transistors then they come out on top!
Although what consumers want with transistors inefficiently used, I am not sure!
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Hold on … lets get a bit real here. To take that card apart was pulling off a piece held on by some tape … and some screws. If you consider that hard … really? Come on.
Once Steve figured out the order of undoing bits, the cables and pcb bits all came apart from each other without too much fuss. The cables all pulled out between the holes in the parts easily. What made it a mess was Steve didn’t know the order of it. I bet you’d manage fine after doing a second card.
The reality is that the card can be dismantled and parts replaced … so if something goes on it, it can be fixed. If that means a few more screws than average , boohoo … get a grip. The faux outrage over things like this is a joke.
Once Steve figured out the order of undoing bits, the cables and pcb bits all came apart from each other without too much fuss. The cables all pulled out between the holes in the parts easily. What made it a mess was Steve didn’t know the order of it. I bet you’d manage fine after doing a second card.
The reality is that the card can be dismantled and parts replaced … so if something goes on it, it can be fixed. If that means a few more screws than average , boohoo … get a grip. The faux outrage over things like this is a joke.
Soldato
It's not the difficulty level, it's the pain in the backside for no reason level that's the issue really.
As opposed to the Jensen, Lisa and Pat extortion racket? Let's not pretend that Intel are doing any favours with their pricing here, they're not rocking the boat, just jumping in trying to scrape some profit with a mediocre offering.
Paul's Hardware interestingly reported that he had no driver problems.
He shows clips from Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, CP2077, Doom Eternal, Horizon Zero Dawn, Far Cry 6 and Dirt 5. He also tried XSS
Of note was that he was using a Ryzen 7950.
He shows clips from Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, CP2077, Doom Eternal, Horizon Zero Dawn, Far Cry 6 and Dirt 5. He also tried XSS
Of note was that he was using a Ryzen 7950.
done deal, will be picking a few up for new systems in the office purely out of spite against AMD/Nvidia for the gouging and those lovely blue leds will go well with our corporate colour scheme 
but in all seriousness its great to see intel stepping up and i'd like to think that as drivers are improved we will see them get even more out of these cards in terms of performance. their beefy in terms of spec so with the right drivers these could be the performance bargains of the year
but in all seriousness its great to see intel stepping up and i'd like to think that as drivers are improved we will see them get even more out of these cards in terms of performance. their beefy in terms of spec so with the right drivers these could be the performance bargains of the year
Caporegime
Perf/transistors is a metric where Arc is world class (sarc):
So we might all be saving that Intel's value for money is lacking but that's because we are thinking in terms of value/perf, if we were thinking in terms of value/transistors then they come out on top!
Although what consumers want with transistors inefficiently used, I am not sure!
As consumers we aren't buying cost for transistor, we are buying cost for performance.
I mean, this argument is entirely new, is this the new metric Intel would like us to adopt to judge value?
Its not our problem Intel can't make an efficient GPU, that's an Intel problem, we aren't stupid, we wont be paying for Intel's problems.
Caporegime
done deal, will be picking a few up for new systems in the office purely out of spite against AMD/Nvidia for the gouging and those lovely blue leds will go well with our corporate colour scheme
but in all seriousness its great to see intel stepping up and i'd like to think that as drivers are improved we will see them get even more out of these cards in terms of performance. their beefy in terms of spec so with the right drivers these could be the performance bargains of the year
As it is its equivalent to an RX 6600, which is $100 cheaper, its why Intel ignored AMD in all their presentations.
Its overpriced, and still broken.
Soldato
The A770 on a top level view is very similar to GCN and Vega i.e loads of transistors and theoretical performance but master of none. I wonder if there is a good chunk of performance still left under the hood untapped due to software (given the size of the chip and number of transistors).
Yeh my uncle was looking for a new card and had heard about the Arcs, after seeing the reviews and the fact he has an older 2600 ryzen system, plays a lot of dx11,dx10 games I pointed him towards a £260 6600 Powercolor. Job done.
Sorry Intel but with all the issues with these cards, even at £150 I would still hesitate.
he was looking for anything to moan about.
Caporegime
Yeah Vega was also a brain child of Raja Kudori, it was never a good GPU and it never became a good GPU, it was just bad.
Caporegime
@nitram100 i think your saved you Uncle from a lot of headaches, Steve Burke was good enough to point out that a lot of the same problems Intel had 6 months ago, still existed, a lot of the others glossed over that.
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