Intel bug incoming? Meltdown and Spectre exploits

[Nasher]

I think the update is kb4056892 if you want to do it manually. https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4056892

Probably best to with these type of patches in case it screws something up, then you can easily remove it.

 

[JasonM]

I have here Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Home.

Only the Windows 10 Pro update was offered via windows update, Server 2008 R2 and Win 10 Home I had to manually download the fix from microsoft.

 

[shankly1985]

@shankly1985 Windows 10 does staggered updates, you should get it within the next few days.

Thanks will keep checking

 

[opethdisciple]

MS are also not releasing the patches to systems running incompatible antivirus.

On going liaison is being done with the affected third party antivirus companies.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Well Aviras free AntiVirus has updated from 15.0.34.16, to 15.0.34.17, but don't know if thats it yet (they said earlier it was coming next update).

 

[AndreiD]

Just got the update, performance unaffected on Ryzen based on a few quick benches.

 

[Homer-Simpson]

For people interested in knowing the state of their AV and if they need to set the reg key manually to get the update, check here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...iuirADzf3cL42FQ/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

Provided by https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog

 

[gavinh87]

Dirt rally, warhammer total war, forza 7, firestrike, tombraider, cinebench all within margin of error stuff my end.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

For people interested in knowing the state of their AV and if they need to set the reg key manually to get the update, check here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...iuirADzf3cL42FQ/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

Provided by https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog

No Avira on there yet

EDIT: Just updated, Avira has it, latest update .17.

According to here, you also need a firmware update too.

There's another catch: The Windows update doesn't update the firmware on your CPU, which also needs a fix to completely solve these problems. You'll have to wait for Lenovo, Dell, HP or whoever made your laptop or PC to push out a firmware patch. Microsoft Surface, Surface Pro and Surface Book users are getting that firmware update now.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/meltdown-spectre-fixes,news-26326.html

EDIT: Or im reading it wrong

 

[Edinho]

AMD must be sitting back eating popcorn and high fiving.

How on earth are you going to patch firmware on obsolete chips and motherboards?

 

[gavinh87]

AMD must be sitting back eating popcorn and high fiving.

How on earth are you going to patch firmware on obsolete chips and motherboards?

You don't. At least not usually. You buy new hardware and intel win again. Assuming people don't go to AMD for whatever reason.

 

[Edinho]

And does this mean PUBG will run even worse lol?

 

[SiDeards73]

You don't. At least not usually. You buy new hardware and intel win again. Assuming people don't go to AMD for whatever reason.

This post right here confirms how biased towards Intel you are hahaha..

"My Intel CPU turns out to have an architectural flaw and probably won't get fixed due to its age, the current AMD stuff is now competitive with Intel and is actually less likely to be attacked in its current state, but I'm going to stick with the more expensive and less secure Intel option because well, more GHz!"

That's how pretty much every reply of yours reads in one form or another Gavin ROFL

 

[gavinh87]

This post right here confirms how biased towards Intel you are hahaha..

"My Intel CPU turns out to have an architectural flaw and probably won't get fixed due to its age, the current AMD stuff is now competitive with Intel and is actually less likely to be attacked in its current state, but I'm going to stick with the more expensive and less secure Intel option because well, more GHz!"

That's how pretty much every reply of yours reads in one form or another Gavin ROFL

It was actually a dig at intel but whatever lol

 

[LoadsaMoney]

I'll whack the fix on tomorrow, too late now to sort if it goes **** up!

 

[Cromulent]

I might ring Citizens Advice next week some time if more information comes to light from big tech websites about what exactly the performance penalties are. I'm sure we will see lots of complex articles analysing the issue over the weekend and the beginning of next week.

I just want some more concrete information from Intel about what they plan to do in the short to medium term.

 

[[HB]Rugrat]

You don't. At least not usually. You buy new hardware and intel win again. Assuming people don't go to AMD for whatever reason.

I know it's not expected to be that serious for Desktop users, but if I was ever forced to change my cpu over something like this I can guarantee you I wouldn't be giving money to the same company that caused the problem.

 

[Broken Hope]

It's pointless doing any benchmarks at the moment, until we get the microcode fixes the OS level fixes aren't enabled.

Using the commands listed here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...or-it-pros-to-protect-against-speculative-exe

I get the following result



Windows isn't enabling the fixes as there is no hardware support present.

 

[gavinh87]

I know it's not expected to be that serious for Desktop users, but if I was ever forced to change my cpu over something like this I can guarantee you I wouldn't be giving money to the same company that caused the problem.

And I agree. I'd think for the most of us here though we can expect our hardware to still be supported. I do wonder what the likes of HP and dell are going to do with older hardware though.

 

[just Scott]

Windows update doesn't work for me because I'm using Ryzen on Windows 7. Trying to install the patch gives me 0x80240037 error. Am I screwed unless I move to Windows 10?