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A great article, thanks . . . except that it ends up with:
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" devastate " haha top writing.everything is such bait now days.
has anyone got a shares link to see how its " actually " effecting shares ? also as pointed out about 99 percent of people who use pcs dont have any knowledge of what we discussing.only nerds like us.
has anyone got a shares link to see how its " actually " effecting shares ? also as pointed out about 99 percent of people who use pcs dont have any knowledge of what we discussing.only nerds like us.
Haha my thoughts exactly, although I do believe it will have some impact as OEM's now have another reason to pick AMD CPU's.
Yes, but the GPU hardware itself is not vulnerable, this is mitigating a CPU vulnerability. I thought QlimaxUK might have got the wrong end of the stick and was thinking the GPU hardware was vulnerable.
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but then that's only for those with an interest/knowledge of computers. I would hate to imagine the % of people that just buy a pc from somewhere like PC World or Dell, and as long as it loads windows and the internet, frankly don't care what's inside it. Just image the US market that just buy pre-build systems from whatever their equivalent to PC World is, it must be the majority of customers - "enthusiasts" like us on a PC forum are always a tiny minority. Those people, who may well fall foul to scaremongering, will only go back to PC World and ask for something secure, at which point both Intel and AMD will have their new "secure" chips available for PC World to upsell at a premium. For average Joe Bloggs, I cant see it suddenly swaying massive demand over to AMD, as they will just buy what's easily available as they're not going to be buying/spec'ing components for a home build, as we would.
The average Joe Bloggs are a very very small part of the industry, the big money and market shares is with large companies who use thousands of chips each, and they know exactly what is going on.
They are the ones with the Intel headaches right now trying to find solutions and fixes.
They are the ones with the Intel headaches right now trying to find solutions and fixes.
Was referring more to businesses rather than consumers. Once a business is hit, they and others alike have the buying power to put a red line through Intel and switch out their infrastructure to AMD on mass for desktop and data centers. The average Joe consumer will as you say most likely not know how to fix their PC and will most likely continue using something that exposes them to the security pitfalls of this until they're in the market for a new PC / Laptop etc.
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Interesting article on 'The Verge' last night quoting Intel's intention to have fixes out for most CPU's introduced in the past 5 years within a week. Nothing about the rest that have been produced in the past 20 years though!
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/8/1...-meltdown-updates-fix-brian-krzanich-ces-2018
Unclear at the moment what someone with older hardware is supposed to do. If we knew whether Intel were releasing a fix for a particular CPU we could then approach motherboard manufacturers as to where and when a bios update would be available.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/8/1...-meltdown-updates-fix-brian-krzanich-ces-2018
Unclear at the moment what someone with older hardware is supposed to do. If we knew whether Intel were releasing a fix for a particular CPU we could then approach motherboard manufacturers as to where and when a bios update would be available.
Also, trouble for AMD owners, if you haven't updated Windows yet it may be best to hold off for now...
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/9/1...tdown-spectre-security-updates-amd-pcs-issues
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/9/1...tdown-spectre-security-updates-amd-pcs-issues
meh... Only effects 10 year old Athlon processors.
Its a bit irresponsible for the Verge to make out its all AMD processors and everyone should not update.
Despite what this idiotic article says if you have an FX or Ryzen CPU you should update your system, this only effects ancient socket 940 45nm Athlon CPU's.
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MS and Windows update has been a joke for awhile :s
Microsoft like most software these days have a "we know what you want for your system better than you do" Like installing very old GPU drivers over newer ones already installed, this without you even knowing about it let alone asking your permission.
The reason crap like that happens is because tech phobic modern educated 17 year old Lucy doesn't know what a driver is and freaks out in panic when the OS asks to do anything.
Technology is no longer just for nerds, the trouble is then you have to make it non nerd friendly.
So what we all end up with is dumbed down dictatorial systems.
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Vista was launched about ten years ago; are Microsoft even producing updates for it these days? I rather doubt that Microsoft will be rolling out another fix for XP . . . how about the late unlamented Me - or the superb 98 SE?
Microsoft doesn't plan to stop fixing security problems in Windows 7 until January 2020. That's aprox. 11 years since it's release and a lot more than the currently poultry offer of support from Intel going back only 5 years.
That currently looks like where the cut off point is, so only Haswell and newer look likely to receive Intel fixes.
Ah, so no Ivy Bridge? that would be a shame because looking around i see a lot of Ivy Bridge users.