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Intel Cannonlake, Cascade Lake, Ice Lake, Tiger Lake & Sapphire Rapid thread

That would be awesome ^^^^ Ryzen 3600 for $100 and 3950X for $350 here we come.

I might upgrade to a $130 3700X.

4K8KW10 said:
New pricing from intel, much anticipated :)

Intel’s 5.0 GHz Core i9-9900KS Ships Next Month, Cascade-Lake X Offering 2x Perf-Per-Dollar
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...cade-lake-x-performance-per-dollar,40320.html

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That's a very bold claim with no context to the slide. they are suggesting far better performance per watt vs the 2950X, which is a 16 core $800 last generation CPU, the up-coming 3950X will blow it out of the water.

I'll be interested to see what the context of this ends up being but when you consider the 3950X and 3'rd generation Threadripper Intel may lose the mindshare pretty quickly when AMD romp back to pee on Intel's parade.
 
It's performance per dollar they're claiming rather than performance per watt, so I assume that Cascade Lake-X will simply be a lot cheaper than Skylake-X was (and it sure needs to be). I can't see much changing in the way of actual performance. As I understand it, it's almost exactly the same architecture. Slightly lower power consumption and slightly higher clocks maybe from adding another + onto their 14nm process.
 
Aretak said:
It's performance per dollar they're claiming rather than performance per watt, so I assume that Cascade Lake-X will simply be a lot cheaper than Skylake-X was (and it sure needs to be). I can't see much changing in the way of actual performance. As I understand it, it's almost exactly the same architecture. Slightly lower power consumption and slightly higher clocks maybe from adding another + onto their 14nm process.
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Yeah, so as what ever Cascade-Lake X there has 25% better performance per $ vs the $800 2950X then it could be a 16 core with 25% higher performance at $800.

That's a hell of a lot better than Skylake X where you're paying $1400 for a 14 core with similar performance to the 2950X, the problem for Intel is the 2950X is last gen, third gen Ryzen of which there will soon be Threadripper variants are a lot faster.

Just the 3950X which is still a mainstream part will blow the 2950X out of the water and cost less, probably $650.
 
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Harlequin said:
Shock news - $1800 laptop beats $1100 laptop........

https://pcper.com/2019/09/ice-lake-benchmarks-1065g7-vs-3700u/
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This sort of comparison in reviews is to be expected from PCPer, its no secrete anymore they are basically an Intel marketing arm with no audience, seriously the PCPer Live Twitch Podcast rakes in a massive 40 to 60 views on average, no one cares.

What i don't understand is AMD's strange need to gimp themselves when it comes to very important OEMs, Zen 2 is good and ready, Navi is good and ready, why do they insist on last gen Zen+ and Vega for their best OEM products?
 
I disagree, those 'dominating market segment' are not buying a 25 watt laptop to game upon.
It might happen as a side effect but the domination gaming platform is by far the mobile phone.
 
humbug said:
This sort of comparison in reviews is to be expected from PCPer, its no secrete anymore they are basically an Intel marketing arm with no audience, seriously the PCPer Live Twitch Podcast rakes in a massive 40 to 60 views on average, no one cares.

What i don't understand is AMD's strange need to gimp themselves when it comes to very important OEMs, Zen 2 is good and ready, Navi is good and ready, why do they insist on last gen Zen+ and Vega for their best OEM products?
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Hilarious - you can buy that Razer Blade Stealth 13 for £1300 - with 16GB of DD3 and an MX150 - or Asus are selling the

ASUS TUF Gaming FX505DV-AL014T - for £1000 with an RTX 2060 and an AMD 3750H....along with 16GB of DDR4...
 
Destination said:
I disagree, those 'dominating market segment' are not buying a 25 watt laptop to game upon.
It might happen as a side effect but the domination gaming platform is by far the mobile phone.
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Yeah, but if so, so relatively "large" iGPUs should not exist at all, if not targeted for gaming mostly.
 
Destination said:
People game on 25 watt laptop chips?
With no GFX card? Just looking at integrated?
Is that really a market segment?
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Everyday people post benchmarks on r/AMD for these reason laptop chips, so I guess they're either fanboying or there are gamers who game on them
 
4K8KW10 said:
I bet this is actually the dominating market segment.
You know that 71.6% of the global wealth is in 5% of the world population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth
The rest 95% holds only 28.4% of the global wealth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth
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You quote things that do not exist from the links you posted.
top 10% of adults hold 85%, while the bottom 90% hold the remaining 15% of the world's total wealth,
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And I like everyone quotes (including wikipedia) the 2013 report, just on the aftermath of the financial downturn and not the 2018 report
https://www.credit-suisse.com/media...publications/global-wealth-report-2018-en.pdf

Also you need to put in context what "wealth" is. Anyone over $100,000 in assets (cash, houses etc minus debt) is on the "top 10". So more likely yourself and myself are included.

So it's numbers need to be taken in context and than creating the sensational headlines. However they prove that the world is poor.
 
Panos said:
You quote things that do not exist from the links you posted.


And I like everyone quotes (including wikipedia) the 2013 report, just on the aftermath of the financial downturn and not the 2018 report
https://www.credit-suisse.com/media...publications/global-wealth-report-2018-en.pdf

Also you need to put in context what "wealth" is. Anyone over $100,000 in assets (cash, houses etc minus debt) is on the "top 10". So more likely yourself and myself are included.

So it's numbers need to be taken in context and than creating the sensational headlines. However they prove that the world is poor.
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It was what I saw first, the point is that billions of people live in poor conditions - in Africa, in Asia, in South America, I see now reports that even in the UK many people are poor:
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Destination said:
Interesting values, the 18 core beats the 10 core in single threads, despite being clockers a GHz lower and boosts half a GHZ lower.
Why would that be?
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Unless the L3 cache comes into play or somehow the 10 core is struggling to hold its boost and dropping lower as a reaction it seems a bit odd.
 
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