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Intel Core i7-11700K Review: Blasting Off with Rocket Lake

Intel would be pretty screwed if the 5800 (non X) came with a cooler and was available for consumers to buy, but at the moment it's OEM only.
 
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Hang on, Intel ships air coolers for the non K versions, including the 11900 / 11900F apparently. If that's affordable, why not on the higher margin K versions?

Are the air coolers just not upto it on 14nm at higher clocks?
 
why are the prices for Ryzen 5000 CPUs cheaper on the ***that's still a competitor*** web site, than other uk websites?

Also, can you run the 5800X with a low end /cheap air cooler if it's underclocked (+ undervolted) say 100-200mhz?
 
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g67575 said:
Hang on, Intel ships air coolers for the non K versions, including the 11900 / 11900F apparently. If that's affordable, why not on the higher margin K versions?

Are the air coolers just not upto it on 14nm at higher clocks?
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You're going need to something more than your generic stock cooler with the 11700K and 11900K. If they shipped it with a stock cooler someone is bound to test it with it and show how much thermal throttling goes on.
 
I went to the order checkout on the ***that's still a competitor*** website, but they add estimated VAT + duties in the order summary stage. Still ~£5 cheaper than cheapest UK based retailer though lol :rolleyes:. Delivery time is apparently just 6-9 working days.
 
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g67575 said:
Also, can you run the 5800X with a low end /cheap air cooler if it's underclocked (+ undervolted) say 100-200mhz?
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Yes.
You can even keep it in stock if temps of 95C don't scare you, CPU will do a decent job of downclocking itself when near thermal limits
ECO mode would turn it from 95W to 65W grade CPU. Or tune power limits manually to suitable levels.
 
alec said:
Yes.
You can even keep it in stock if temps of 95C don't scare you, CPU will do a decent job of downclocking itself when near thermal limits
ECO mode would turn it from 95W to 65W grade CPU. Or tune power limits manually to suitable levels.
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Thanks for the info - 65w power limit sounds good, most air coolers can handle that well. Wonder how that would effect performance and stability of the 5800X?

My current air cooled CPU runs at TDP of 84w, probably a bit higher cause it's overclocked.

Wouldn't wanna run on load over 85 degrees personally...

EDIT- Lol, I think this is the answer:
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-5800-can-easily-be-unlocked-to-5800x

5800 (non X, OEM) runs at 65w TDP at stock settings. Performance seems slightly lower than stock 5800X on Cinebench singlethreaded R20, otherwise virtually the same.

AMD why u make buying a CPU so hard :D
 
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scubes said:
Intel is so behind and with there cpus intel need to do something special with alder lake to get back the performance crown.
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Well, so far Alder Lake's leaks all fall in the category 'interesting' rather than fast.
The Linux kernel writers should be able to handle BIG.little fairly soon after release, but Microsoft's scheduler might struggle for a while though.
 
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Well, so far Alder Lake's leaks all fall in the category 'interesting' rather than fast.
The Linux kernel writers should be able to handle BIG.little fairly soon after release, but Microsoft's scheduler might struggle for a while though.
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Too early to tell, significant IPC boost wouldn't surprise me though. They aren't planning volume production of Alder Lake + Sapphire Rapids until late 2021 according to Intel's CEO
 
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Some redditors have been using a Hyper 212 EVO V2 on the 5800X, is this a good enough cooler guys?

I could reduce the CPUs TDP to 65w if needed.

You can get an AMD Wraith Prism for a bit more money (looks quite good), but does I'd thought it wouldn't perform as well.

I bought the Hyper 212 EVO original 8 years and it's still going (but I had to buy a new dual ball bearing fan a 2-3 years ago).
 
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