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This has about as much chance of a successful launch as a bulldozer that Elon Musk tied two Catherine Wheels to.
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Intel Core i7-11700K Review: Blasting Off with Rocket Lake
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It's NetBurst 2.0, hot, power hungry and slower 
People like me won't tho. People who were genuinely on the fence, having no preference for either company. Temporarily peed at AMD for raising prices, but not peed enough to buy an inferior product out of spite (not quite
).So now it's choice of buying nothing, wait for prices to drop, or buy AMD at today's stupidly high prices.
Will wait for the actual launch to see what the reaction is, but suspect there will be absolutely no reaction at all.
Personally I will probably wait, buy Zen3 towards the end of the year. I already have the RAM, PSU, SSD, so waiting is annoying, but not impossible.
Many will buy them for stability (loads of USB disconnecting issues on Zen 3 it seems) and for the best gaming performance. Remember, the i9 at stock is going to re-take the gaming performance crown:
I think the Anandtech i7 reviews numbers looked bugged in some way. We'll see once the release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks are released.
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I've been trying to get a hold of a 5900X since release without success so had been paying a little attention to RL just to see what it was going to turn out to be. Yea even though this is not the 11900K this is basically a no go for me now.
Sadly with the state of availability of cpus (and gpus for that matter) i've basically mothballed my 'winter 2020/21' plans and will check back into the market in winter '2021/22'. Thankfully my 4790k/1080Ti is still holding up reasonably well.
Sadly with the state of availability of cpus (and gpus for that matter) i've basically mothballed my 'winter 2020/21' plans and will check back into the market in winter '2021/22'. Thankfully my 4790k/1080Ti is still holding up reasonably well.
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I got lucky and got a 5900X for RRP. If I hadn't I'd be tempted by the 5800X with prices dropping below RRP and easy availability now. Or one of the budget 10th gen Intels like the 10400f would be tempting too.
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Many will buy them for stability (loads of USB disconnecting issues on Zen 3 it seems) and for the best gaming performance. Remember, the i9 at stock is going to re-take the gaming performance crown:
I think the Anandtech i7 reviews numbers looked bugged in some way. We'll see once the release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks are released.
Serious question - what are you going to do if the micro-code update fixes nothing and the 11900K doesn't live up to the marketing slide you keep trotting out?
"Loads of USB disconnect issues on X570" - You have first hand experience I take it?
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I couldn't care less for 1080p gaming.Many will buy them for stability (loads of USB disconnecting issues on Zen 3 it seems) and for the best gaming performance. Remember, the i9 at stock is going to re-take the gaming performance crown:
I think the Anandtech i7 reviews numbers looked bugged in some way. We'll see once the release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks are released.
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And if the anandtech i7 reviews are correct how do you cool the i9 as that will be hotter and the i7 apparently hit 104 id wait before makeing any more posts if i was you mate and as for usb issue yes some not all are haveing issues with it but not everyone so could be compatability issue but keep shouting about it if it makes you feel better mate oh by the way im hopeing the benches are wrong as wanted to have a mess about with one but if not ill stay well clearMany will buy them for stability (loads of USB disconnecting issues on Zen 3 it seems) and for the best gaming performance. Remember, the i9 at stock is going to re-take the gaming performance crown:
I think the Anandtech i7 reviews numbers looked bugged in some way. We'll see once the release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks are released.
He has no experience with anything, he's running a 6 or 7 year old CPU from the previous decade and claiming he's clued up with current and future products like he has everything (he seems to know exactly what's happening inside intel and amd and how their future products perform under all conditions, he knows exactly what their manufacturing capabilities are and what issues each product has)
He straight up claimed that Anandtech and the 100 other 11700k owners who have been posting benchmarks are total fake news and rocket lake is gonna blow everyone away through some magic trick Intel is working on; Not only that but it's actually going to draw way less power, run way cooler, everyone is going to get massive overclocks and lowest ever latency that makes lisa su cry at night and to top it off; Every store will have so much stock they'll need to practically give it away for free
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Many will buy them for stability (loads of USB disconnecting issues on Zen 3 it seems) and for the best gaming performance. Remember, the i9 at stock is going to re-take the gaming performance crown:
I think the Anandtech i7 reviews numbers looked bugged in some way. We'll see once the release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks are released.
LOL usb issues... Intel HEDT has been plagued with them since day one and never fixed 100% ... That's why I avoided x299 after x99... Click below link...
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=x99+usb+problems
The system in my signiture is the first ever AMD system I have purchased since owning and buying my first intel 80286 IBM compatible PC around 1982. So that should tell you something... I was the number one intel fan and even when they were slower a bit I would still get intel because I knew programs were compiled on intel and ran better.. not anymore that excuse works. I have had enough of intel and the way they vandalised the cpu market for decades and kept us on dual and quad cores for way too long unless we went HEDT and paid the stupid prices. New world now and as a PC fan I will buy what is best and what is best right now is AMD for cpus and price. Intel lost me this time, next time maybe different and they also lost all the people (work, family and friends) that come to me to buy systems for them, because now I buy AMD cpus for them and AMD laptops with their cpus.
Intel has been a disaster for over 5 years now and vandalised the cpu market for decades with their shady deals with pc builders and deliberately slowing down innovation in the cpu/pc market by giving us rehashed old technology and limiting core counts and then segmenting their cpus from mainstream to HEDT to keep selling cpus at very inflated prices for the performance given, basically a monopoly how they behaved, wake up to the reality.
When I read the review for rocket lake I couldn't stop laughing and though Karma finally got them and at the same time saddened to see what a mess they have turned into, but remembered the greedy ways how they behaved and thought good this time they will get a kicking they won't forget quickly and come back fighting next time a better stronger company hopefully and behave with better ethics. We need intel to be good again or AMD will take us for a ride next time too. That is just how business works in this sector, Nvidia is another great example but so far they are ahead with products that still can't be touched by AMD's GPU section, minute they do an intel and fall behind I will repeat the same as I have done with intel here, Nvidia are currently taking us on the intel ride from the past and playing us all for fools to with fake MSRP on their products and deliberately slowing down innovation by adding low amounts of VRAM as an example to their so called top end gaming card the 3080 10GB is a joke and done to make sure people update early. Yes I know 3090.. but that is not really aimed at gamers and as a gaming card only it's silly priced, for work a bargain.
@Dave2150 we will see once they release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks get released and then go watch intels share prices over the week. They have bigger problems than microcode this generation of cpus as you will wake up to that fact soon.. an 8 core cpu using as much power as a 3090 is a bad joke and the costs of cooling/running it and the silly price intel will put on them to be stubborn and pretend to be still on top.
Shareholders questioning them end of March will get.... "Intel stating that they had no comment to offer"
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True though this is unfortunately often just typical human behaviour. Once individuals, companies, governments etc obtain a position of power and influence, which also brings increased wealth then they will do their utmost, by fair means and often foul, to maintain that position and monopoly.
It's great to see AMD taking the lead in the various sectors that matter to PC users, though if that position of dominance remains for another 10 years then you could be well using those exact same words against AMD. Let's hope Intel returns to winning ways sooner than later so that it is our own selfishness that gets satisfied.
Your dedication is amazing. Are you being paid for your services, or are you doing it all for free?Many will buy them for stability (loads of USB disconnecting issues on Zen 3 it seems) and for the best gaming performance. Remember, the i9 at stock is going to re-take the gaming performance crown:
I think the Anandtech i7 reviews numbers looked bugged in some way. We'll see once the release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks are released.
Many will buy them for stability (loads of USB disconnecting issues on Zen 3 it seems) and for the best gaming performance. Remember, the i9 at stock is going to re-take the gaming performance crown:
I think the Anandtech i7 reviews numbers looked bugged in some way. We'll see once the release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks are released.
This will be absolute best case and with Intel recently it probably has some caveat like 'performed with sub zero cooling' or some other nonsense.
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Looks like this is the reason Jim Keller left Intel - the design wouldnt work on 14nm and needed a small node to work , and of course Bob Swan wouldnt listen - Exclusive: Hedge fund Third Point urges Intel to explore deal options | Reuters
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They should have ditched the i series marketing moniker and called this a Pentium 4 2021 edition or something ridiculous, the heat output and power usage are on par. I love Intel, have done for a long time (last AMD CPU was a Socket 939 X2 4400+) and I've always recommended Intel laptops due to a good performance/power usage ratio in that sector.
I will say I have a sour taste from all the (none HEDT) quad/dual core Intel CPU rehashes they peddled before the 8th Gen, the blatant profiteering and complacency have certainly come home to roost now. 11th Gen mainstream Intel desktop CPU's really are a joke.
Hurry up AMD and release 8C/16T APU, my server needs some love
I will say I have a sour taste from all the (none HEDT) quad/dual core Intel CPU rehashes they peddled before the 8th Gen, the blatant profiteering and complacency have certainly come home to roost now. 11th Gen mainstream Intel desktop CPU's really are a joke.
Hurry up AMD and release 8C/16T APU, my server needs some love
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I asked this very same question in another thread he never answered it's not dedication now its desperation
Not disagreeing, but I think the important word is they could in the future whereas with Intel it is they have done so repeatedly in the past.
While past behaviour is no guarantee of future behaviour, I prefer to use it as a guide.
The alternative is that they are all bad anyhow, so might as well go for whoever. Problem with that is similar to voting for known populist liars because they are more interesting.
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Many will buy them for stability (loads of USB disconnecting issues on Zen 3 it seems) and for the best gaming performance. Remember, the i9 at stock is going to re-take the gaming performance crown:
I think the Anandtech i7 reviews numbers looked bugged in some way. We'll see once the release uefi/microcode and official benchmarks are released.
Firstly stop falsely posting about none existing issues its wrong stop it , I can find few posts about intel issues doesnt mean its widespread issue , Also I heard the board partners have had the chips for quite awhile at best maybe 1-2% if another micro update is released and you are showing benchmark thats cherry picked by intel showing only 7 games
We all know rocket lake is a place holder lets wait for proper reviews so you cant hide behind the so called uefi/microcode anymore