they did say the first week of december
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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851
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If you know the true cost of design / development, BOM and packackging then please enlighten me. On the other hand, just what would Intel or Nvidia charge for the best gaming CPU on the planet?
I don’t think the Battlemage series will be winning any prizes, because Intel opted to fab it with TSMC’s 6nm process.
Nvidia used the N4 TSMC process for the RTX 4000 series (still 5nm apparently).
EDIT - I’ve seen conflicting reports on whether it will utilise a 4nm or 6nm process.
I suppose we should know by tomorrow.
Nvidia used the N4 TSMC process for the RTX 4000 series (still 5nm apparently).
EDIT - I’ve seen conflicting reports on whether it will utilise a 4nm or 6nm process.
I suppose we should know by tomorrow.
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Why Did Intel Fire CEO Pat Gelsinger?
Yesterday the Intel board did the idiotic and fired CEO Pat Gelsinger.
www.semiaccurate.com
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But people tell me 20A was cancelled because it was bad.
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Soldato
Doesn't look like they are going for the top end of the market, rather the budget end. And that's probably a very wise move.
intel still have to be prepared for failures on the GPU side of things, they are new to the game.
I just hope they keep going on the long-haul.
Soldato
Well, so much for the intel announcement.
Personally, never thought it was bad. Shame they couldn’t produce the damn thing though. There were lots of innovations planned alongside 20a, in addition to EUV lithography use for desktop CPUs, so it would have been significant.
They admitted earlier this year, that they couldn’t produce it at scale, due to a high defect rate.
Ultimately, Intel’s success largely depends on being able to fabricate their own chips (including CPUs and GPUs).
I wish they could bring back Anandtech…
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The good news about the Battlemage chips, is that the transistor density is higher than the Alchemist series, at approx. 72.05 / mm² (vs 53.4M / mm² for Alchemist).
The bad news, is that they are using a 5nm EUV process, presumably one that is inferior to the one Nvidia used for the RTX 4000 series.
All the currently available GPUs are fabbed on TSMC processes, but Nvidia seems to be quite a bit ahead in terms of transistor density, with a figure of 121.8M / mm² for GPUs like the RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 Super.
AMD is not that much behind Nvidia at least at the higher end, with a transistor density of 109.1M / mm² for Navi31 GPUs.
Personally, I think Intel will be doing well if they can produce a higher end GPU that matches or beats cards like the RX 7700XT. And hopefully force some price competition.
The bad news, is that they are using a 5nm EUV process, presumably one that is inferior to the one Nvidia used for the RTX 4000 series.
All the currently available GPUs are fabbed on TSMC processes, but Nvidia seems to be quite a bit ahead in terms of transistor density, with a figure of 121.8M / mm² for GPUs like the RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 Super.
AMD is not that much behind Nvidia at least at the higher end, with a transistor density of 109.1M / mm² for Navi31 GPUs.
Personally, I think Intel will be doing well if they can produce a higher end GPU that matches or beats cards like the RX 7700XT. And hopefully force some price competition.
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