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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851
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Caporegime
Maybe it was just bad luck, data sample is still small. Either way, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that a delidded part is likely more prone to failure than a part that has not gone through that process.
Still, my 14900KS outlasted it though which I find funny.
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Caporegime
Aside from those failure issues, they must be pretty resilient tbf to withstand such high power draw and still function.Still, my 14900KS outlasted it though which I find funny.
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Aside from those failure issues, they must be pretty resilient tbf to withstand such high power draw and still function.
Soldato
To be honest my 14900k has been absolutely solid.
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As has mine, I see no reason to change it out for now.
I have a 9800x3d with an RTX 4090, 64 GB (2x 32) RAM, 2 nvme SSDs, 2 SATA SSDs, 2 HDDs and 1 Broadcom 9500-8i HBA consuming 100 Watt idle on the desktop with 1 4k monitor connected (110 Watt with 2 4k monitors connected). I mean I get it I have a lot of hardware installed but still.
Would Arrow Lake be much lower in idle?
Is Arrow Lake also more efficient at light work with only some threads being utilized?
Would Arrow Lake be much lower in idle?
Is Arrow Lake also more efficient at light work with only some threads being utilized?
With a 4K display whole system power draw at the wall is going to be around 100 Watt with that kind of hardware - with AMD CPUs you generally see about 18-35 Watt higher idle than equivalent Intels due to the IOD/SoC and less efficient power gating under low utilisation states but often a good bit of that is absorbed in PSU efficiency. (Though ironically depending on usage over a whole day it often evens out unless you go to town optimising each system including picking the optimal PSU for the configuration and usage).
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Caporegime
I'm drawing about 60 watts idle.
Ryzen 5800X
RX 7800 XT
Ryzen 5800X
RX 7800 XT
Soldato
That all the wall? I have no way to measure mine for whole system but no way it's that low given my CPU and GPU (9800X3D + 4080) are pulling 35W+18W minimums according to hwinfo64
Caporegime
Same, HWinfo, GPU 40 watts total board power CPU 25 watts total power, with a discord chat.
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Caporegime
@Rroff is right AMD CPU's do idle higher due to the IO die, i doubt 35 watts higher, that's more than half the power limit of some Ryzen CPU's.
The IO die on mine uses around 15 watts no matter what the CPU is doing. that's pretty typical. I would say they use 15 watt more at idle.
The IO die on mine uses around 15 watts no matter what the CPU is doing. that's pretty typical. I would say they use 15 watt more at idle.
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Unless you go to town tuning it or have like an 8600G or Intel T series CPU, etc. on an appropriate low power motherboard the average desktop system will be around 100 watt after PSU efficiency at the wall especially if using a display(s) which require the GPU to be a little more active. If you have like 1 NVME, no additional PCI-e cards, 1080p display, minimal fans, etc. reviewers like Tomshardware have measured 40-70 watt idle at the wall for a range of CPUs in a bench setup or as little as 20 with a T series CPU on a low power consumption motherboard.
Arrow Lake would be 15-25W lower at idle. Though it's an absolute turd of a CPU, I'd not recommend a sidegrade from a 9800X3D.
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Soldato
Or you could have bought a 14700KF at nearly half the price and had pretty much the same, or slightly better, performance at 4K :s or a 7700X at half the price not been much worse off :s
Unless Intel has some magic fix to come...
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