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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

Glanza said:
Got the itch to pick up a 265k, for the ones that have it how are you finding it, happy with the performance?
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Couldn't be happier with mine,it runs cool,it's very snappy.
I was originally going to go with a 285K but the price to performance difference compared to the 265K was not worth it as shown by benchmarks for an extra £200+ ,glad I didn't and went with the 265

What I'm confused about is why they've not offered higher "P" core count skus as of yet for the ultra line up,why are we only getting 8 cores?
Thought by now we'd be seeing 12/16 "P" core offerings.
 
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Nevakonaza said:
Couldn't be happier with mine,it runs cool,it's very snappy.
I was originally going to go with a 285K but the price to performance difference compared to the 265K was not worth it as shown by benchmarks for an extra £200+ ,glad I didn't and went with the 265

What I'm confused about is why they've not offered higher "P" core count skus as of yet for the ultra line up,why are we only getting 8 cores?
Thought by now we'd be seeing 12/16 "P" core offerings.
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I remember making a similar choice for the i7 14700k compared to the 14900k. Both cost and potential heat / power draw for not a great deal of meaningful difference in performance meant I ended up with the i7.

What motherboard and memory did you go for..?

Good choice, enjoy your build.
 
Vimes said:
I remember making a similar choice for the i7 14700k compared to the 14900k. Both cost and potential heat / power draw for not a great deal of meaningful difference in performance meant I ended up with the i7.

What motherboard and memory did you go for..?

Good choice, enjoy your build.
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  • Gigabyte Z890 Aorus Elite WiFi7
  • 32GB Corsair Vengeance 6000Mhz (CL30)
For CPU cooling using an MSI Mag CoreLiquid i360,Currently running at this moment in time around 26-28c Idle on all cores, During gaming in Rust it doesn't really go above 65C...i think Rust is more CPU intensive than GPU intensive too.

Have one of those Secure Mount kits fitted which i can see definitely helps with even spread/Distribution of paste when you mount the cooler as all my core temps are within 1-2c of each other which shows the paste is spread nice across.
 
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Nevakonaza said:
  • Gigabyte Z890 Aorus Elite WiFi7
  • 32GB Corsair Vengeance 6000Mhz (CL30)
For CPU cooling using an MSI Mag CoreLiquid i360,Currently running at this moment in time around 26-28c Idle on all cores, During gaming in Rust it doesn't really go above 65C...i think Rust is more CPU intensive than GPU intensive too.

Have one of those Secure Mount kits fitted which i can see definitely helps with even spread/Distribution of paste when you mount the cooler as all my core temps are within 1-2c of each other which shows the paste is spread nice across.
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Thanks and sorry I did not note your sig when I was on my phone. I can see it now that I'm back to my desktop.

Great choice, I have been largely happy with my Gigabyte Aorus Elite board, albeit Z690. It just works and does so well.
Nice memory and cooler also.
Interesting about Rust, I note that some games are also that way. AFOP, the Avatar one, utilises the P and E cores quite extensively.

I use an AF 420mm AIO, very good and temps similar to what you note, higher of course in summer.
 
RSR said:
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I saw the comparison showing the 285 and the 9800x3d with Cinebench, obviously favouring the Intel build. But where were the gaming benchmarks showing a similar comparison to the AMD CPU..?
Even the Cinebench graphs could have shown the 9950x AMD CPU.
It was mentioned that it would have shown "absurdly" high frame rates..... But then not shown.!
I'm not taking away from how this platform has improved, but I thought that video was quite selective on what it showed.
 
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chris_98 said:
I mean I get it but Arrow Lake is basically on par with AMD Ryzen 9000 non X3D while having a vastly superior iGPU and lower power consumption at idle (and maybe at low loads but have to test that) so it's not like you shouldn't buy it in any case.
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There isn't much wrong with the platform, there is a lot wrong with the prices when they are a new generation that struggles against the previous generation, which itself was a mediocre update on the generation before it, while priced higher. The 285K should be an i7 and priced accordingly, 265K an i5, etc. etc. and people buying into it are just encouraging Intel to do an nVidia and keep taking the ****. Even though there isn't exactly a lot of choice right now.
 
RSR said:
So moved back to the 285K from the 9800X3D, I can swap between them but interesting to see how they perform on different daily tasks.

So first test Chrome open with a few tabs with YouTube playing and Discord open:

9800X3D + 7900XTX - ~190-200W
285K + 4090 - ~120-140W

Those are total systems draw from the wall numbers

Both systems have the same Vertex GX-1200 PSU / Cooling (Mora 420 / 4 x 200MM and single D5) and the Intel system also has an Intel X550-T1 NIC (with a 3D Printed fan cover and 40mm fan). The 9800X3D does have PBO+CO and 6400C26 memory as I have not even started setting up the Intel one as it only have some basic stuff done. As I have been waiting for the MC 116 to be released from Asus.
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Do you have an power usage figures for both systems when gaming please?
 
Vimes said:
I saw the comparison showing the 285 and the 9800x3d with Cinebench, obviously favouring the Intel build. But where were the gaming benchmarks showing a similar comparison to the AMD CPU..?
Even the Cinebench graphs could have shown the 9950x AMD CPU.
It was mentioned that it would have shown "absurdly" high frame rates..... But then not shown.!
I'm not taking away from how this platform has improved, but I thought that video was quite selective on what it showed.
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Level 1 techs is not a gaming channel. He wasn't doing a "re-review" or even a review, he's basically just unpacking thoughts on using that 285 "non K" for whatever length of time he's been playing with it.
Most of Wendel's vids are like that.
His viewer base is Prosumers and work related, same for the level 1 forum.
@RSR just trying to do something good linking a vid with someone talking about using a Core Ultra system.

The big problem we have here is while we have people interested in building on the platform, anytime anyone wants to air some thoughts. We have the usual haters and ******** jump into the thread and try and shut that down. So understandably people using the platform just don't want to talk about it on here. These haters have never used the platform, they don't understand what's good about it, and a lot of them haven't even built a system in years. It's ridiculous, but it does show you what happens when you release without the final polish on a platform, but isn't that true for a large number of hardware releases in the last couple of years?

Ryzen 9000 was flamed because of it's launch issues. They "mostly" got fixed it died down, same will happen here other than the usual haters.
It's an ever evolving process, just like AMD kick out new AGESA.

You can expect new microcode from Intel to evolve over time. It's a brand new platform a few months old, they certainly aren't done refining it.



There are other forums, Ocnet for example with a healthy community using and talking about Core Ultra on a daily basis. Might be a bit advanced for a lot of people as most on here these days are "set XMP and done" kinds of users.
There's information everywhere, but you're going to have to look for it. It's not on here.
 
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@Legion Thanks for posting that, it offers context.
Not seeing any of his content before I assumed it was a review from a more typical hardware review channel.
 
RSR said:
Sure, anything you have in mind?

I can run BF 2042 / Monster Hunter BM / CP2077 BM numbers if you like?
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Thanks yes, if you can show whichever has the highest power usage, that would be great.
I'm wondering if I can get away with a 265K and RTX 5090 on a 1000W power supply.
 
Legion said:
There are other forums, Ocnet for example with a healthy community using and talking about Core Ultra on a daily basis. Might be a bit advanced for a lot of people as most on here these days are "set XMP and done" kinds of users.
There's information everywhere, but you're going to have to look for it. It's not on here.
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I can post all my MB config once it is all set, like I have done with my 9950X and I can also do the same with my 9800X3D

As I have said before if there are any examples, I can run them all any of mine. As I have just been posting my experiences with the platforms.
 
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