** INTEL DEVIL's CANYON IS HERE & PENTIUM K ANNIVERSARY EDITION!! **

how many cherry picked CPUs can Intel have on hand?
lots and lots and lots

then don't forget extreme cooling and total lack of empathy for the chip can go a very long way.

I could bench a 4770K at 5.2GHz that I probably wouldn't sell any higher than 4.5GHz 24/7 stable

So you have them stocked and ready to go? What kinda quantity?
Not on this occasion :(

So are you telling me that you have got Z97 and Devils Canyon boards/cpus in stock ready to go?
No I'm saying that we don't but it's a VERY unusual occurrence for Intel's consumer division.
It was totally predictable too. We would have expected engineering samples at least 6-8 weeks ago if everything was on the normal schedule, the fact that we were waiting until last week was enough to convince me that Intel were not going to be able to hit the launch with stock.
 
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What graphics has the pentium got? Is it the same as the g3220? Can you overclock one with an h81 board as they have the multiplier changing option
 
What are the chances these 4790s will be used in the prebuilt gaming rigs. Was about to fork out for a prebuilt Titan Sabre. (Don't think I have the patience to build my own again).

Maybe put in a request at time of order?

You can order any current 4770K system with a 4790K by calling our sales team.

Alternatively I'll be offering 4790K versions of most mainstream gaming systems for pre-order in the next few days.
 
Well back when OCUK were selling 4+GHz i3 bundles the boards were the most expensive thing in the pack.

Not always though - some of the boards were like £55 H55 ones IIRC. Every single socket 1156 based motherboard could be used to overclock with.

True, however as the vast majority of games are lightly threaded it will defiantly appeal to many buyers, I.E for a WoW junkie this when overclocked would beat every single CPU AMD have right up to and including the FX9590 which is 4x the price.

But by extension it will beat every Intel CPU under £200 too,unless it is an overclocked Core i5 4670K. You need to be careful with that logic.

None of you are going to buy a Pentium dual core as your main CPU,let alone disable half the cores and HT on your Core i5s and Core i7s to get a higher core overclock. People keep repeating the lightly threaded line but still get Core i7s on this forum for gaming though.

These debates have been had for the last couple of years. The E8400 lost out to the Q6600 over time and the Core i3 530 lasted longer than the G6950.

How many of us got people to buy the Core i3 530 over the G6950??

Plus WoW is not really a good example,as it will run fine on many setups now,its with one or two add-ons that things get a bit hairy,but even then you can simply use others(I know plenty of WoW players). All the main new generation engines are well threaded(at least require 4 reasonably capable threads) with dozens of titles signed upto use them,and with dozens of studios also signing upto Mantle and by extension DX12.

This might have usage for certain titles(which I have a list of),but many lightly threaded games like LoL and DOTA2 run on even anaemic setups well and they like have over 40 million users between them.

If I was on a budget I would take a Core i3 4330,FX6300 or FX8320 on a locked motherboard over the Pentium anyday,and if you have a decent enough budget a Core i5,Xeon E3 or Core i7 are the obvious choices. The HT on the Haswell Core i3 4130/4330 actually seems to make a huge difference in certain games when compared to the G3420 which is kind of worrying.

The only time I would actually recommend a Pentium K series is for only certain titles,something like WoT for example, where it would make plenty of sense. Certain emulators for example too.

OTH,something like Rome II would still need at least four fast threads to do the job,even though it does hog one core massively.
 
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Have a new build to finish. Was just waiting for DC. Would I be ok ScottiB if I wait until Friday to order 4790k? What's the rate the DC is selling? I would like to be in the first batch if I could. If not I'm sure I could find one somewhere....
 
That Pentium will really stick it to the FX chips for gaming!

Lets hope so...

Shame there is no H/T/it isn't an i3. Puts a bit of a dampener on is after chips like the i3 530. Dual core, quad thread, some were good for 4.6GHz, and that was just a "normal" CPU.
 
That Pentium will really stick it to the FX chips for gaming!

By that extension it will also it stick to most of the sub £200 Intel chips for gaming too! ;)

It will have higher lightly threaded performance overclocked than anything bar an overclocked Core i5 4670K.

ASRock says around 4.4GHZ is what they got.

Great for WoT and means no one needs to consider a Core i5 4670K for "many" games,right??

But I suppose you were making a generalisation.

Oh wait,most of you have Core i5s and Core i7s for the multi-threaded performance,since you know that is where things are heading. A bit disingenuous,no?

Try BF4 MP with a decent card,or Thief or Watch Dogs.

Let me remind you:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2nivdli.jpg
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/827/bench/CPU_01.png

The chap who did the first test,noted the G3420 was choppy even with Mantle. Look at how much HT adds to performance.

That is even before taking frame-times into consideration.

I will say it now,when DX12 arrives in the next year(preceded by multiple Mantle titles),a Core i3/FX6300/FX8320/locked Core i5 are going to have the performance advantage at stock in many new generation titles.

If this chip was released a few years ago,things would have been different,but things are changing now due to the console updates.

No amount of overclocking is going to really help longterm.

Lets hope so...

Shame there is no H/T/it isn't an i3. Puts a bit of a dampener on is after chips like the i3 530. Dual core, quad thread, some were good for 4.6GHz, and that was just a "normal" CPU.

The thing is we have been here before though. E8400 vs Q6600 and even G6950 vs Core i3 530.

A Core i3 K series would have rocked. Better lightly thread performance than most sub £200 Intel CPUs when overclocked and multi-threaded performance approaching Core i5 level.

A bit like a Core i3 530 was(yes you could overclock the Core i5 750,but the whole setup was cheaper,than getting a Core i5 750 and a cheap motherboard IIRC).

The thing is this a safe move from Intel,since they know people would say buy a Pentium K series with a more expensive motherboard. Then in the next year or so,when the performance starts going south,they have repeat business when people buy Core i5 or Core i7 CPUs to replace them with.

So they:
1.)Get repeat business quicker.
2.)Get people to spend more on an expensive motherboard in the first place.They make more money out of higher end chipsets. Thats assuming that people don't find a way around that.

Its better they probably stuck with a Core i3,Core i5 with a cheaper motherboard or an alternate CPU in the first place.

A Core i3 K series would have done the same as the Core i3 530.

Plenty of people had overclocked Core i3 530 CPUs and didn't even bother upgrading them,meaning it was years until they bought another setup.
 
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Right then, as I couldn't find any up to date information about overclocking on non Z series boards and the fact that my wifes Gigabyte B85-D3H has quite a large selection of overclocking options (strange for a board that supposedly can't overclock) i decided to experiment. I took her Pentium G3420 out and stuck my 4670K in. Did a quick and dirty overclock (multiplier and vcore) in the bios and got this.



The BCLK is a tad low which is why it's not at 4.4Ghz but 4.389Ghz from a quick overclock and a board that you are not supposed to be able to overclock on is very good. There are loads of settings to play around with so it may have gone even further if i could be bothered to carry on.

The bios is version F9 which was the latest when i built it a couple of months ago. The latest now is F12 which updates support for the Haswell refresh cpu's. They haven't updated the list to include Devils Canyon or the Anniversay Pentium but that doesn't neccessarily mean that they won't be supporting them.

This board only cost me £48 brand new and delivered and also supports crossfire although only at 16x/4x. If support does get added it would make a decent partner for the Anniversary Pentium.
 
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