Intel Dual Core from £79 +VAT

Infinity · 28 May 2006 at 22:13

sweat69 said:
I have managed to get it down to 42 now.

How did you get it low with stock settings still? My best with that setup is 53 seconds. I cant get the ram timings right so the ram is running slowly and at cas3

I want to know if the twins is any better with ddr2

Nogimmix · 30 May 2006 at 14:46

I'm looking to get a 805 and was wondering if the following set up will be ok and will I get a nice overclock?

CP-116-IN Intel Pentium 4 805 Dual Core "LGA775 Smithfield" 2.66GHz (533FSB) - Retail (CP-116-IN)
£71.95 £71.95
HS-017-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 775) (HS-017-AR)
£15.95 £15.95
MY-034-GL GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC5300 667MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB5300DC) (MY-034-GL)
£109.95 £109.95
GX-044-CO Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-044-CO)
£144.95 £144.95
CA-040-AN Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU (CA-040-AN)
£56.95 £56.95
FG-024-AK Akasa AK-183-L2B Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan - 3 pin (FG-024-AK)
£9.95 £9.95
MB-105-AS Asus P5WD2 Premium Intel 955X (LGA775) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-105-AS)
£119.95 £119.95

Raikiri · 30 May 2006 at 14:48

That would work, but you may as well get something like this mobo

Asus P5ND2 SLi nForce4 SLi (LGA775) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-116-AS) £70

and spend the rest on a seperate case / better PSU. Maybe the super lanboy and the 500w Enermax Liberty

Mr Mister · 30 May 2006 at 15:02

Isnt it a better idea to get intel chipset for best clocks with intel chips? I was looking at the abit aw8.

Infinity · 30 May 2006 at 15:07

Doesnt the premium have the 6 voltage regulators that help with the high volts/temps,that is a big price difference though.

Dont think thats true Mister

Nogimmix · 30 May 2006 at 15:10

Raikiri said:
That would work, but you may as well get something like this mobo

Asus P5ND2 SLi nForce4 SLi (LGA775) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-116-AS) £70

and spend the rest on a seperate case / better PSU. Maybe the super lanboy and the 500w Enermax Liberty

Is that a stable board?

Raikiri · 30 May 2006 at 15:11

While intel chips will clock better, I ahve seen nvidia based board do at least 220FSB and up to 260 so with this chip that really won't matter as it will limit you before the board does... plus the 955x won't support conroe so theres very little point in spending an extra £50 and gaining no upgrade path.

Save the £50 and you can get a PSU that will be good to use for the next 3 years.

Nogimmix said:
Is that a stable board?

I got the Deluxe version from B-grade, only diference being it has firewire and 2 extra S-ata ports I believe. It is 100% stable running my 805 @ 3.7 and I have 3.85 before even though my cpu isnt a very good clocker and I have the cheapest ram known to man

Nogimmix · 30 May 2006 at 15:15

Raikiri said:
I got the Deluxe version from B-grade, only diference being it has firewire and 2 extra S-ata ports I believe. It is 100% stable running my 805 @ 3.7 and I have 3.85 before even though my cpu isnt a very good clocker and I have the cheapest ram known to man

Very nice. What ram would you advise on me getting?

Infinity · 30 May 2006 at 15:26

In the toms hardware review they compare the two top ram speeds at the same CPU speed and it makes little difference to performance especially if not multitasking. Iam sure ram speed/bandwidth matters at some point but I will probably get 533 speed myself

Nogimmix · 30 May 2006 at 15:31

Right, whittled it down to:

GX-037-OK OcUK GeForce 7900 GT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-037-OK)
£159.95 £159.95
MB-116-AS Asus P5ND2 SLi nForce4 SLi (LGA775) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-116-AS)
£59.95 £59.95
CP-116-IN Intel Pentium 4 805 Dual Core "LGA775 Smithfield" 2.66GHz (533FSB) - Retail (CP-116-IN)
£71.95 £71.95
CA-054-LL Lian-Li PC-7 PLUS Black Aluminium Midi-Tower Case (No PSU) (CA-054-LL)
£48.95 £48.95
CA-025-EN Enermax Liberty 500W ELT500AWT ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CA-025-EN)
£59.95 £59.95
MY-034-GL GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC5300 667MHz Value DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB5300DC) (MY-034-GL)
£109.95 £109.95
Subtotal £510.70
VAT £89.38
Total £600.08

Not bad for the price, also gives me the option on getting another 7900GT in the future.

After some reading it seems the Lian-Li PC-7 PLUS is a good case.

Raikiri · 30 May 2006 at 15:35

Nice spec

That should make a very nice system, I have the Lian Li and it is an excellent case although you might want to get one of the CD cover things for it as they make it look much neater.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Lian_Li_Accessories_226.html

Tooks · 30 May 2006 at 20:42

Agree it's a nice spec, but the only thing that's ringing alarm bells with me is that Nforce4 motherboard.

Do a google search on Nforce4 Intel edition data corruption, and you'll see what I mean.

I don't mean to be a scaremonger, but my Nforce4 motherboard (Abit NI8 SLI GR) was a nightmare with my D805. It might have just been a bad board, but I was getting data corruption errors on large installs and when dragging files between hard drives/USB sticks etc.

I'd recommend an Intel 945/955/975 chipset based on my experiences...

Infinity · 30 May 2006 at 20:56

How long has the P5ND2 been available. One article said the chipset was only released last November. Opps, that'd be Nov 2004 since the article is old

Raikiri · 30 May 2006 at 21:05

Well, from my experiences with the Asus board I would say theres absolutely nothing wrong. After all the GR uses a diferent (newer) chipset so there probably were problems with it.

Tooks · 30 May 2006 at 21:09

Fair enough Raikiri, and OCUK were fine about taking the board back once I'd talked through the issues I was having with mine.

That's why I like this place!

shadowscotland · 1 Jun 2006 at 12:22

05A vs. 05B

Question to you all, I’ve just got my hands on a 805 but it’s the 775_VR_CONFIG_05A flavour not he _05B that Tom’s Hardware used.

My chip reads:
805 2.66GH SL8ZH MALAY
2.66GHZ/2M/533/05A

I must say I didn’t know that their were two types but a little searching has found some information on these, and from my limited knowledge it looks as is the 05B has greater flexability in the voltage and current spec. (edit see page 20 onwards)

(http://download.intel.com/design/Pentiumd/datashts/30750603.pdf)

Will the 05A still overclock as well (any one got one) or is it worth an exchange?

I'm putting it in an Asus P5WD2 Premium if that helps

Infinity · 1 Jun 2006 at 13:05

If you allready have the parts then you might as well?

But no I wouldnt expect that to work even half as well, I'd be interested to know though. I doubt the average joe bloggs will pay you any less for your old chip

shadowscotland · 1 Jun 2006 at 14:47

05A vs. 05B

Thanks infinity that's what i thought.

The nice fokes here have just checked their stock - first five 805's were all 05A's - I'd have like to swap but they are offering refund.

But that leads me to thing that anyone else buying from here has a 05A and most seam able to OC? can anyone confirm what type their 805 is?
I know that means dismantleing their rig but it would really help.

Thanks

Infinity · 1 Jun 2006 at 14:54

It says on the box and also in the TH review what coding they recommend

shadowscotland · 1 Jun 2006 at 15:12

05A vs 05B

but the A or B coding is NOT on the box only on the chip.
So far I've found no other comments about this than the intel data sheet (link above) and that wasn't that easy to find.