Intel has a Pretty Big Problem..

humbug · 28 Jul 2024 at 23:27

Gerard said:
Did you watch the video? He didn't say they were under spec that's just the clickbait title. He talks about a previous gen launch where some cpus weren't meeting boost clocks, but goes on to say he doesn't know what the actual issue is with the 9k series.

Did he bring up the meeting clocks thing just so that he could justify that click bait thumbnail or does he believe that and its the reason for it?

These are the sort of questions i have for Youtubers who prostitute themselves for the Youtube algorithm.

Gerard · 28 Jul 2024 at 23:28

humbug said:
Did he bring up the meeting clocks thing just so that he could justify that click bait thumbnail or does he believe that and its the reason for it?

These are the sort of questions i have for Youtubers who prostitute themselves for the Youtube algorithm.

Go to 8:20 in the video and he starts to bring up previous issues, that was one of them

Gerard · 28 Jul 2024 at 23:31

jigger said:
So a guy with a YouTube channel and opinion. I kinda thought as much TBH.

Replace 'guy' with 'Drooling gimp', and that's closer to the truth.

humbug · 28 Jul 2024 at 23:33

Who has his stupid face? I want to see his stupid face....

TrixP10 · 28 Jul 2024 at 23:34

humbug said:
Did he bring up the meeting clocks thing just so that he could justify that click bait thumbnail or does he believe that and its the reason for it?

These are the sort of questions i have for Youtubers who prostitute themselves for the Youtube algorithm.

yeah, but they might not reach the clocks - especially if it's the wrong chip inside

humbug · 28 Jul 2024 at 23:34

TrixP10 said:
yeah, but they might not reach the clocks - especially if it's the wrong chip inside

lol....

Tetras · 28 Jul 2024 at 23:42

TrixP10 said:
yeah, but they might not reach the clocks - especially if it's the wrong chip inside

Better than rust inside.

Rroff · 28 Jul 2024 at 23:46

KompuKare said:
And usually Intel run accelerated ageing tests:

Quite a lot of possibilities - with the way many businesses are run these days wouldn't surprise me if they moved ahead on production before having validation back on ageing testing and maybe the validation silicon didn't behave like some/all of production, maybe they tried to fix it or maybe they didn't. Or maybe some production silicon doesn't behave within the range of validation silicon, etc.

G J · 29 Jul 2024 at 02:39

humbug said:
These articles in your linked posts actually rubbish this as fake

Yes I know that and I posted in one of the threads calling out one of the fake articles but you missed the point again so no worries.

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Gorbash12346 · 29 Jul 2024 at 13:53

So My processor is being rma'd now, I asked about the warranty situation with a replacement processor and was told it would only be for the remaining term of my original warranty.
I said well thats not encouraging what about a refund. I was then told that the refund would not be a full refund and would be based on the market value of the processor and a reflection of the use I've already had out of it.
Is that normal? Should I expect to receive a full refund?

Tetras · 29 Jul 2024 at 13:54

Gorbash12346 said:
So My processor is being rma'd now, I asked about the warranty situation with a replacement processor and was told it would only be for the remaining term of my original warranty.
I said well thats not encouraging what about a refund. I was then told that the refund would not be a full refund and would be based on the market value of the processor and a reflectionm of the use I#ve already had out of it.
Is that normal? Should I expect to receive a full refund?

It depends, did you go with the retailer or the manuacturer?

How old is the CPU?

Daytrader · 29 Jul 2024 at 13:57

Well, when i go the rma route, i will want full refund, even thou i bought last august, only put into new pc a month or so ago.

Gorbash12346 · 29 Jul 2024 at 15:08

Tetras said:
It depends, did you go with the retailer or the manuacturer?

How old is the CPU?

December 2022
Retailer want it back to test it, it's due to be picked up this week. I've e-mailed intel with a support request but haven't yet heard back from them.

Tetras · 29 Jul 2024 at 15:48

Gorbash12346 said:
December 2022
Retailer want it back to test it, it's due to be picked up this week. I've e-mailed intel with a support request but haven't yet heard back from them.

In that case, retailers will often do that deduction thing.

ED209 · 29 Jul 2024 at 16:29

I had a similar thing when I returned a faulty keyboard. no where near the cost of a processor though.

I had the keyboard for 7 months, was returned as it was double typing and they had 30 days to sort it so went back to the manufacturer.

After 30 days there was no update and was not replaced\repaired as it was EOL. Paid £84 for it and then got back £79 so they deducted money from the refund due to the time I had the keyboard for. I was fine with this as it was not much at all but its going to be completely different on a CPU

Frenzy · 29 Jul 2024 at 18:05

Tetras said:
In that case, retailers will often do that deduction thing.

I remember years ago rmaing a crucial ssd direct to manufacturer and they did the same thing to me. Might be different for cpus though.

KompuKare · 29 Jul 2024 at 18:23

On the other hand if a CPU has given lots of trouble, then deducting "for the use you got of it" is cheeky; I mean can someone charge extra for the stress they got out it too?

I presume Intel could not do that but hard to say how refund would work from the manufacturer as there is lots of logistics as retailers, distributors all got their cut when it was first bought.

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Joxeon · 29 Jul 2024 at 20:48

throwaway4372 said:
Imagine you're a person who usually buys Intel, you're familiar with their CPUs. Your PC is old so you were planning to buy soon. Now you're told 13th and 14th gen are dodgy, unless you're going back to 12th gen you need to be looking at AMD. But you don't know AMD, so you'd need something like this to easily find the suitable AMD equivalent. In the meantime you're stuck in a holding pattern, waiting for upcoming AMD and Intel releases (and NVIDIA, and Windows 12 also maybe), and seeing whether issues get resolved and what gets recommended.

Even without the issues no one should really be buying into LGA1700 at this point when a new platform is due soon.