Intel has a Pretty Big Problem..

[humbug]

Forgot to add, you should check your purchase but it should be a 3 year warranty so you have time...

 

[Rroff]

Am I able to get a refund at this stage in the game? 13900K purchased retail new in December 2022. I mean the only other option I have is a 14th gen at this stage and it doesn't seem like thats any better a choice.

I dunno about the refund side, but the 14700K isn't far off the 13900K for performance and so far only very isolated reports of this failure with them - though it is unclear at this stage how it pans out longer term and whether it just takes longer than the 14900 or only affects a smaller number of them, etc.

 

[G J]

AMD found a problem and delayed the chip before it becomes a problem. i don't know what your point is?

That Intel have done the same as they found a problem before it become a problem and they know about it as it was "leaked" to MLID (Or he's making it up) so this may cause a delay with Arrow Lake just like AMD have done when they pulled their CPU's.

AMD wasn't very clear or transparent the reason why they pulled their CPU's so I appplied the same thinking others have with Intel and said nobody may know untill a year later and then you questioned it but you took a gossipmonger at this word

Damn, I was checking ocuk prices for the 13900KS £800, I don't remember paying that =/ Competitor is ridiculously cheaper, is there something special about the ocuk ones? The 14900KS is cheaper at 690

Maybe the CPU's from OCUK work and competitor's ones dont....

 

[spooks]

My opinion is open as to the explanation but in my experience Asus MCE has put more stress on CPUs than typical with other brands. I think also you tend to get more general consumers sucked in by the ROG branding, etc. who have less clue about setting things up properly, whereas people who buy the other brands are probably a little more weighted towards people who know what they are doing.

People who buy ASUS know less than people who buy MSI for example? Not sure I follow that logic.

 

[Rroff]

People who buy ASUS know less than people who buy MSI for example? Not sure I follow that logic.

In terms of mass market penetration Asus, especially the ROG branding, tends to be out ahead of the others.

 

[DeathStorm]

My question is:

• prior to this did nobody who experience anything not talk about it?
• somehow blamed themselves?
• or what?

Well here's the thing, I ran into two separate 5900X that degraded all while being run at stock or under and no one ever said a thing about any issues with these Ryzen chips when they launched, I mean clearly there was something going on with some of those early units but you work around the issue(s) and move on, in my case I returned the first, replaced the second with a 5600X while the 5900X was RMA'd then replaced everything with an Intel, actually that's a lie I've still got the 5600X and never got around to reselling as I was expecting the new kit to break given how well things had been going...

As an individual, my experience would be chalked up to bad luck or user error but my only concern was getting my main system back up and running even though I lost quite a lot buying a 5600X to tide me over and selling the RMA. I assume most people would have a similar mindset? Not about spunking so much cash needlessly but about finding a working resolution as the priority.

 

[Rroff]

Well here's the thing, I ran into two separate 5900X that degraded all while being run at stock or under and no one ever said a thing about any issues with these Ryzen chips when they launched, I mean clearly there was something going on with some of those early units but you work around the issue(s) and move on, in my case I returned the first, replaced the second with a 5600X while the 5900X was RMA'd then replaced everything with an Intel, actually that's a lie I've still got the 5600X and never got around to reselling as I was expecting the new kit to break given how well things had been going...

As an individual, my experience would be chalked up to bad luck or user error but my only concern was getting my main system back up and running even though I lost quite a lot buying a 5600X to tide me over and selling the RMA. I assume most people would have a similar mindset? Not about spunking so much cash needlessly but about finding a working resolution as the priority.

There was a thread on it awhile ago upto 6% failure rate on the Ryzen 5900 chips, similar problem with Ryzen 1700 mostly 1700X but also a small number of 1600s were either faulty out the box or degraded within a month.

EDIT: Googling it apparently 10600K and to a lesser extent 11600K had quite high failure rates, not ran into it myself albeit around that era mostly dealt with 10400 chips.

 

[marcus_667]

had my cpu 5 months and have had crashing issues since day 1 with numerous tweaks etc now i have degridation issues.

should have just returned to seller before it was too late.

 

[G J]

There was a thread on it awhile ago upto 6% failure rate on the Ryzen 5900 chips, similar problem with Ryzen 1700 mostly 1700X but also a small number of 1600s were either faulty out the box or degraded within a month.

EDIT: Googling it apparently 10600K and to a lesser extent 11600K had quite high failure rates, not ran into it myself albeit around that era mostly dealt with 10400 chips.

Intresting post as I was bored and went seaching and there's infomation out there from Intel and AMD online over CPU issues over the years and some was from this very forum.

Ryzen 5000 crashes - anyone getting them?

Hi Just curious how many here with Ryzen 5000 CPU are getting frequent crashing? I ask as a mate of mine just built a new PC using 5800X and is getting many crashes a day regardless of what he is doing. He seems to be getting a few of the documented problems from Reddit etc too like USB ports...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

0.5 - 6% of Ryzen 5000 Processors Faulty

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/amd-ryzen-5000-processor-failures-are-they-really-that-bad 1. "According to PowerGPU, of the 50 5950X CPUs it received, eight were DOA. Out of 50 5900X CPUs, four were DOA. PowerGPU’s 5800X and 5600X stock also reportedly had high failure rates as well." 2...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

Check out the posts from some of the users today and the posts back then.

 

[spooks]

had my cpu 5 months and have had crashing issues since day 1 with numerous tweaks etc now i have degridation issues.

should have just returned to seller before it was too late.

Gutted. What I personally would do is make yourself a receipt and claim via intel. I highly doubt they will check that its a legit receipt.

I bought my 14900k on eBay as well and that's what I'll do should I have problems. Seems as though a lot of these issues manifest very quickly if you are going to get them.

 

[Frenzy]

I was just reading this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/1edhm93/raptor_lake_degradation_issue_rpldie_faq_10/

edit: nvm I misread, it just says raptor lake is b0

 

[marcus_667]

Gutted. What I personally would do is make yourself a receipt and claim via intel. I highly doubt they will check that its a legit receipt.

I bought my 14900k on eBay as well and that's what I'll do should I have problems. Seems as though a lot of these issues manifest very quickly if you are going to get them.

I bought it from a competitor i have emailed them , my cpu isnt even stable on "out the box Intel profile" settings , knew i should have got that 7950x3d haha

 

[humbug]

Intresting post as I was bored and went seaching and there's infomation out there from Intel and AMD online over CPU issues over the years and some was from this very forum.

Ryzen 5000 crashes - anyone getting them?

Hi Just curious how many here with Ryzen 5000 CPU are getting frequent crashing? I ask as a mate of mine just built a new PC using 5800X and is getting many crashes a day regardless of what he is doing. He seems to be getting a few of the documented problems from Reddit etc too like USB ports...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

0.5 - 6% of Ryzen 5000 Processors Faulty

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/amd-ryzen-5000-processor-failures-are-they-really-that-bad 1. "According to PowerGPU, of the 50 5950X CPUs it received, eight were DOA. Out of 50 5900X CPUs, four were DOA. PowerGPU’s 5800X and 5600X stock also reportedly had high failure rates as well." 2...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

Check out the posts from some of the users today and the posts back then.

These articles in your linked posts actually rubbish this as fake

 

[MrMarvelous]

Intel has a right mess on their hands to sort out. Looks like AMD might have cocked up too, apparently the new 9XXX series is having issues and every unit has been recalled for further testing.

The CPU/GPU space seems like such a mess these days and the nidicolous prices don't help either.

 

[marcus_667]

Intel has a right mess on their hands to sort out. Looks like AMD might have cocked up too, apparently the new 9XXX series is having issues and every unit has been recalled for further testing.

The CPU/GPU space seems like such a mess these days and the nidicolous prices don't help either.

i guess the fact they havent it full retail yet does them some favours , everyone i game with who has 14th and 13th gen i9 and i7 have issues some even thought "windows lol" was the issue

 

[TrixP10]

These articles in your linked posts actually rubbish this as fake

yep, I remember that BS.

 

[TrixP10]

Intel has a right mess on their hands to sort out. Looks like AMD might have cocked up too, apparently the new 9XXX series is having issues and every unit has been recalled for further testing.

The CPU/GPU space seems like such a mess these days and the nidicolous prices don't help either.

have you any info on the 9xxx issues?

 

[jigger]

I dunno about the refund side, but the 14700K isn't far off the 13900K for performance and so far only very isolated reports of this failure with them - though it is unclear at this stage how it pans out longer term and whether it just takes longer than the 14900 or only affects a smaller number of them, etc.

It seems pretty clear from the numbers of failures from the people running these 24/7 Essentially the increased operating time is giving us insight into the future.

 

[Chud_Jenny]

have you any info on the 9xxx issues?

Are they just waiting for BIOS maturity?

Gigabyte confirms Ryzen 9000 support through latest AGESA 1.2.0.0A firmware - VideoCardz.com

Gigabyte ready for Ryzen 9000 Gigabyte confirms support for Ryzen 9000 series on its AM5 based motherboards. There is some good news and some bad news. The bad news is that there are no 800-series motherboards available yet, and they likely won’t be available when the Ryzen 9000 series is...

videocardz.com

 

[KompuKare]

I bought it from a competitor i have emailed them , my cpu isnt even stable on "out the box Intel profile" settings , knew i should have got that 7950x3d haha

If two products perform similar but one can use 3x the power then surely the choice should have been easy?

What I am glad with this whole affair is that going forward, nobody should release such a power hog again - well at least not for a few years anyhow!

And that is a very good thing.

Let the manufacturers come with other ways of "winning".

Even Intel with their huge P cores and on their old 10nm process could have gone for an extra cache model. I know 257mm² is big (top RPL die) and Intel's margins aren't what they used to be, but a 300mm² die with +32MB or of cache would probably been viable and, in hindsight, would probably have cost them less than this will end up costing them. Similar on the other x86 camp: far too often in the last few years they seemed to have penny pinched every last mm². Well if that results in pushing the dies too much - that kind of thing can only end up being bad long-term.