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I'm sorry but you would not find me paring an GPU the calibre of a 290x or 780ti with current AMD CPUs. I would want the maximum performance available in every gaming scenario, and that would be with an Intel CPU.
 
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cwgk91 said:
In poorly threaded games, yes definitely. I doubt I will see much of a difference in things like bf4 as they use as many threads as you throw at them. As will all the mantle games. However, I do play games like arma and world of tanks, both of which are crap from a coding point of view, so I will probably see a large difference in those.

Overall, I'm happy with my 8350, but Im bored and want to change mainly :D
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Sweclockers tested an R9 290X with a Core i5 4670K and a FX8350 using 64 player BF4 maps online. It was under 10% difference and that was before Mantle.

If I were you I would stick with what you have,and wait until Skylake is released next year and also see how Mantle and DX12 pan out. Remember people on the internet are good at spending other people's money to make themselves feel better,so you have to be wary at times.

I will ask you sell this question:

"If you were not on an internet tech forum,would you be thinking of changing your current CPU?"

"Is performance cratering in some games ATM??"

If the answer is "not really" then I would not bother until you hit an actual playability bottleneck.

I have done that for years,and saved loads of money as a result.

Even if it is upgradetitus,I have learned to ignore it,and I would rather get something like Skylake anyway.

If you have excess money you want to spend,spend it on a nice holiday or something and if you drink maybe many beers or a nice bottle of some spirit!! :p

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If someone already has a 4.8+ GHz FX83x0 CPU paired to one of the above mentioned cards, they are not going to see "massive" increases in fps as you put it. That's just reality. If buying a totally new system, of course a 4770k and Z97 make sense.

Re: fanboi-ism, I don't think anyone would call me an AMD "fan". You with intel on the other hand...
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You have a lot of rigs!! So from a £400+ Core i7 3930K,a £250 i7 4770K to a £100 FX8320 with multiple GTX780 cards.
 
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Is the 8350 not a multi threaded chip, more akin to the Intel i7's? I know that bf4 does run better on i7 compared to i5, not a big amount though unless using multi gpu from my experience.
 
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Is the 8350 not a multi threaded chip, more akin to the Intel i7's? I know that bf4 does run better on i7 compared to i5, not a big amount though unless using multi gpu from my experience.
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Crysis3 according to pcgameshardware is faster on a Core i7 than a Core i5 in some sections.

The FX series have "narrower" cores,so are slower per core,but with the consoles,Mantle,DX12 and better driver threading(ironically seen with Nvidia cards),decent multi-threaded performane is probably going to be more and more important at each price brand IMHO if you want a system to last a while. TBF,at each of their pricepoints the FX8320(which makes anything above it in the AMD FX range look pointless IMHO),Core i5 4670K,Xeon E3 1230 V3 and Core i7 4770K are decent buys IMHO.
 
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Skyrim is a bad one for testing because when originally released the game had no compiler optimizations enabled, which heavily favoured Intel CPUs due to their focus on legacy code execution resources. The difference is a lot less pronounced with fully patched Skyrim however websites like Tom's will almost certainly use the same version for consistency when testing.
 
Ahhhh decisions decisions

Do I keep my Gigabyte z87 board and try my luck with a 4770k and pray it overclocks well enough to support one 7990, let alone two.

Or do I wait and see if 4790k is compatible with the z87 chipset (which I doubt) and then have the hassle of selling my Gigabyte board and getting a new one.

Or do I wait even longer and get Haswell-E instead which would be better suited for quadfire.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
I'm sorry but you would not find me paring an GPU the calibre of a 290x or 780ti with current AMD CPUs. I would want the maximum performance available in every gaming scenario, and that would be with an Intel CPU.
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Exactly mate. 290X needs a decent CPU to pair with to get the most from. Lol at him calling me an Intel fanboy. I've been rooting for the underdog for years, they just haven't put out anything in the CPU space worth bothering with.

I buy based on what's best value VS performance at the time, or flat out best performance. Atm the it's Intel..

RetrogamerX said:
Ok so is 4790k still coming in early June?
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No one knows for certain yet, rumors spreading around of delay until September. Will suck if true..
 
Plus that's a GTX680, not an overclocked R9 290X, GPU performance has moved on a bit (And will move on massively with the next die shrink)

I'd struggle to justify moving from an FX8320 with single R9 290X to an i5/i7, but one should never buy an FX832 system with an R9 290X in the first place if you're buying it in one go.
 
Didn't mean to open that can of worms again, sorry guys! I do have some playability issues in SOME games, not all and that is relative to my flatmate's 4670k.

I have someone to hand my 8350 machine on to for a donation towards my intel processor so won't be a total waste of money :) they are also desperate for a machine and will not be looking towards xfire in the future, unlike me.

The other reason is that I'm very tempted by a small form factor pc which, with the current mobo selection, i am unable to do with AM3+
 
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Didn't mean to open that can of worms again, sorry guys! I do have some playability issues in SOME games, not all and that is relative to my flatmate's 4670k.

I have someone to hand my 8350 machine on to for a donation towards my intel processor so won't be a total waste of money :) they are also desperate for a machine and will not be looking towards xfire in the future, unlike me.

The other reason is that I'm very tempted by a small form factor pc which, with the current mobo selection, i am unable to do with AM3+
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Ideal if you have someone to sell it onto, the extra performance and much lower power on the 4770K etc use make it a worthy upgrade. If you buy into Z97 chipset you have added future upgrade as well.

Go for it.
 
That was my thinking :) Which chip now depends on when devils canyon gets released..

Edit: or if i can find a decent 4770k :D
 
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