Intel Haswell Refresh Processors Codenamed Devil’s Canyon – Launching in Mid 2014 With Unlocked Desi

Dicehunter · 9 Jun 2014 at 05:31

As PCPERS sample was sent straight from Intel I can't see Intel intentionally sending them a lower performing part.

Guess it's going to be as much a silicon lottery as the standard Haswell chips, No reason to switch from a nicely clocked 4770K.

Wish we could just get Broadwell, Getting real tired of these incremental updates which this in reality isn't even that, This is just a few extra capacitors and "Updated" TIM.

shamus21 · 9 Jun 2014 at 06:04

Dicehunter said:
As PCPERS sample was sent straight from Intel I can't see Intel intentionally sending them a lower performing part.

Guess it's going to be as much a silicon lottery as the standard Haswell chips, No reason to switch from a nicely clocked 4770K.

Wish we could just get Broadwell, Getting real tired of these incremental updates which this in reality isn't even that, This is just a few extra capacitors and "Updated" TIM.

They don`t have to try no competition.

joeyjojo · 9 Jun 2014 at 08:19

shamus21 said:
They don`t have to try no competition.

Of course they do, these small improvements mean only the most ardent "enthusiasts" are upgrading. Look at the number of people still on first and second generation i# processors. If Intel wanted to make money from this sector it would be pushing ahead with more powerful processors.

The reason things are slowing down is that "enthusiasts" make up a tiny proportion of the market, so there isn't as much money to be made in this sector compared to others (mobile, servers).

flopper · 9 Jun 2014 at 08:47

Dicehunter said:
As PCPERS sample was sent straight from Intel I can't see Intel intentionally sending them a lower performing part.

Guess it's going to be as much a silicon lottery as the standard Haswell chips, No reason to switch from a nicely clocked 4770K.

Wish we could just get Broadwell, Getting real tired of these incremental updates which this in reality isn't even that, This is just a few extra capacitors and "Updated" TIM.

Broadwell wont be good enough.
no sign of Intel actually doing things that much faster.
incremental is the selling point.

Kelt · 9 Jun 2014 at 10:15

joeyjojo said:
Of course they do, these small improvements mean only the most ardent "enthusiasts" are upgrading. Look at the number of people still on first and second generation i# processors. If Intel wanted to make money from this sector it would be pushing ahead with more powerful processors.

The reason things are slowing down is that "enthusiasts" make up a tiny proportion of the market, so there isn't as much money to be made in this sector compared to others (mobile, servers).

I'm even earlier than that! I bought my Q6600 from the MM (thanks Flibby

) on 7/8/2008. I really didn't think I'd be still running it almost six years later.

Would a modern CPU blow it away? For sure, but ignorance is bliss. I run most of my games at 30-60 FPS @ 1080P, and it does all the Windows stuff just fine.

I can wait until there's a seriously good upgrade worth going for, maybe a six core Haswell-E or I might just wait for Skylake.

mmj_uk · 9 Jun 2014 at 12:07

Dicehunter said:
Wish we could just get Broadwell, Getting real tired of these incremental updates which this in reality isn't even that, This is just a few extra capacitors and "Updated" TIM.

It's a pretty substantial upgrade for 99% of computer buyers who get their computers pre-built from PC World, the 4790K at stock will be faster than a lot of previous generation processors when overclocked.

Anyway, you should be buying into a Socket 2011 system if you want a massive improvement.

gjc10212 · 9 Jun 2014 at 12:12

I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered.

Boomstick777 · 9 Jun 2014 at 12:23

mmj_uk said:
It's a pretty substantial upgrade for 99% of computer buyers who get their computers pre-built from PC World, the 4790K at stock will be faster than a lot of previous generation processors when overclocked.

Anyway, you should be buying into a Socket 2011 system if you want a massive improvement.

Agreed, and for those looking at building new systems now. The 4790K and Z97 is a nice refresh option at the same price points. I see no reason for people to be hatin on Intel. They could have just brought nothing out until Broadwell.

Boomstick777 · 9 Jun 2014 at 12:29

gjc10212 said:
I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered.

Be good to see some user opinions in this thread. Can't decide whether I wanna get one or not

The lower temps and stock speed is very tempting.

bakes0310 · 9 Jun 2014 at 12:39

Boomstick777 said:
Be good to see some user opinions in this thread. Can't decide whether I wanna get one or not

The lower temps and stock speed is very tempting.

Well if you can wait ill be using one aswell, and ill post up some results

Boomstick777 · 9 Jun 2014 at 12:52

bakes0310 said:
Well if you can wait ill be using one aswell, and ill post up some results

Nice one

stulid · 9 Jun 2014 at 13:30

http://pclab.pl/art58123-15.html

4.7 on air, 4.8 on water.

mmj_uk · 9 Jun 2014 at 16:39

4.6ghz is likely to be average then, it's still far better than 4770K a lot of which hit a wall at 4.2-4.3ghz, have heat problems and generally need lots of voltage.

Mei · 9 Jun 2014 at 17:03

dont think a kraken rly counts as "on water" but anyway not so bad
4.7 under 80 degrees i think most would be happy
perving on the asus boards atm ><

joeyjojo · 9 Jun 2014 at 17:46

Kelt said:
I'm even earlier than that! I bought my Q6600 from the MM (thanks Flibby ) on 7/8/2008. I really didn't think I'd be still running it almost six years later.

Would a modern CPU blow it away? For sure, but ignorance is bliss. I run most of my games at 30-60 FPS @ 1080P, and it does all the Windows stuff just fine.

I'm in a similar position actually, got a Q9300 (xeon equiv.) that manages good enough fps with a 560 Ti at 1920x1200, albeit at medium in some games.

simonnance · 9 Jun 2014 at 18:01

Ordered a 4790K to replace my nearly 6-year old first gen Core i7-920. Looking forwards to a reasonable bump in speed.

McstylisT · 9 Jun 2014 at 18:10

Was seriously considering selling off my current bits and going DC on release. I have upgraded my case / cooling and have a MSI Z97I gaming itx board and i am happily sitting at 4.6ghz on my 4670K , where as 4.4ghz was very max on Z87N. I dont think there is a need to change for me atm. Unless its in excess of 5ghz we see on DC. I may just sit it out till Broadwell........ Sooooooo undecided

setter · 9 Jun 2014 at 18:34

mmj_uk said:
4.6ghz is likely to be average then, it's still far better than 4770K a lot of which hit a wall at 4.2-4.3ghz, have heat problems and generally need lots of voltage.

This is the situation im in, temps are too high. Tbh id be pretty happy at 4.6 and way lower temps than what i currently get.

Phixsator · 9 Jun 2014 at 18:56

setter said:
Incidentally phixsator, have you tried your previous oc settings on the new bios? Recently flashed to a new bios on my board in sig, vcore required for the same oc needed quite a jump. Ive yet to install the 1504 DC compatible bios though.

Yes i have and they are not stable. Well they never were but gaming was fine. That has surely changed. I had to back down to a 4,25ghz to be stable. I might be able to push for 4,3-4,4 but the heat is still a big issue spite being under water which is why i really want a new chip cause the one i have is dreadfull

ToxicTBag · 9 Jun 2014 at 19:38

Have seen that Asus have started supporting the 4790k on z87 but only some boards, anyone know if the 4790k will get support on the z87 Maximus Formula?

Muchas Gracias