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Intel Haswell Refresh Processors Codenamed Devil’s Canyon – Launching in Mid 2014 With Unlocked Desi

I think its gonna be rare for 5ghz chips on air,only a few golden chips

id expect around the 4.7ghz mark tbh

from what ive read it takes more tweaking with dc chips and they tend to be more stable on offset voltages rather than fixed
 
Trouble is if you delid you still can't shove tons of extra volts through as you'll simply degrade the chip?

If temps were the deciding factor then i'd happily delid now (i've got everything I need, even a naked Ivy mounting kit on its way) BUT after all that effort and risk, i'm already at 1.38v for 4.5GHz, any higher and I risk degrading the chip anyway. Temps aren't holding me back, the quality of my chip is.
wow, 1.38. That sucks, i thought mine was bad, 1.296 at load, 1.2750 in bios for 4.5. Just temps on mine are the problem.
 
be interesting to see what broadwell can do,you need a die shrink and less volts,as they are now they are just simply too damn hot

last decent chips were sandybridge for running temps
The hw chips are so much hotter even than ib, too many things added on die. Never owned sb myself as prior to ib i was on x58, a platform i found ran at very good temps on both systems i owned.
 
I remember someone saying on here that there are issues with solder cracking on the 22nm chips. Now how much truth there is to that ive no idea tbh. But the cynical part of me still thinks it's a cost cutting exercise. From seeing the junk paste that many gpu and motherboard manufacturers use, i expect intel to be the same. Probably buy the cheapest stuff they can get by the bucket. I stripped the heatsinks of an evga 680i mobo a few years ago. Not much need for ipa to clean the paste of as it just dropped of in powdery lumps. Blu tac would probably have been more useful at transferring heat.
 
will this be a nice upgrade from a 3770 ?
Im assuming you have the locked non k 3770 Paul, or is that a typo? Reason i ask is, if you own a 3770k the move to this wouldnt really be worth it, if your current chip is a non k you could always grab a secondhand 3770k and use it with your current board and ram if you want to do a spot of overclocking.
 
The Paste is the same old junk!!! The guys delidded some. JUNK!!!

Binning to start again I think as Golden chip will be very rare.
Any difference in the thickness of the ihs 8 Pack, and are they using less adhesive. The amount of black gunk ive seen being removed from some delidded chips looks like it was slapped on with a trowel by a cowboy builder.
 
Ahh, no probs. From the very few reviews out at present, they do seem to run a bit cooler than current haswell chips. Ive ordered a 4790k so it will be interesting to compare it to the chip in sig. If its a decent clocker ill keep it in this rig and either sell the current one or build another system round it.
 
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