Intel Haswell Refresh Processors Codenamed Devil’s Canyon – Launching in Mid 2014 With Unlocked Desi

[Boomstick777]

I for one, cannot wait for the DC core to be released. Since I am still using a Q6600 Kentsfield Core

That will be a really decent upgrade. Appreciate if you could post your thoughts in the thread when your setup

On the fence on this one until I see the user comments..

 

[Boomstick777]

Good review here, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon-overclock-performance,3845.html

 

[Boomstick777]

4.5Ghz-4.6Ghz with manageable temps would be awesome.

 

[Boomstick777]

[Bit-Tech] Scan overclocks Pentium G3258 to 4.5GHz

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2014/06/05/scan-overclocks-pentium-g3258-to-4-5ghz/1

Scan has succeeded in overclocking Intel's new Pentium G3258 from 3.2GHz to 4.5GHz

We were pretty excited to hear about Intel's plans to introduce a multiplier-unlocked Pentium a few months back and Scan seems to have been too. It's been playing with samples of the new CPU for a few weeks and the results are good.

 

[Boomstick777]

The Paste is the same old junk!!! The guys delidded some. JUNK!!!

Binning to start again I think as Golden chip will be very rare.

That confirms me moving to Haswell -E later in the year then

 

[Boomstick777]

It's a shame the TIM is still bad, but I'll probably still go for a DC chip over a normal one unless the prices drop further. Either way it'll be a nice upgrade over my old Athlon

Yeah if you're building new, def go for the 4790K over the 4770K.

I doubt I will go 4790K as already on 4770K, but for anyone building now 4790K is a better bet.

 

[Boomstick777]

Review: Intel Pentium Anniversary Edition G3258

Hexus > http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/70977-intel-pentium-anniversary-edition-g3258/

The overclockers' favourite

Remember the days when you could take a cheap processor, overclock it to rude levels using basic air cooling, and then achieve the kind of performance normally reserved for far more expensive chips? Those days are largely gone, more's the pity, because AMD's base CPU performance isn't great while Intel limits overclocking on cheaper non-K processors by locking the maximum all-core multiplier and base clock ratio to the chip's default level. Want to go faster, spend the extra and buy a K-series chip.

The overclocked chip does a very good impression of a Core i7-4770K - there's very little difference in real-world games run at 1080p. Sometimes numbers can be misleading, but the game(s) felt smooth and fluid to play. We'd challenge anyone to tell the difference between the overclocked Pentium G3258 and the 5x dearer Core i7-4770K in these games. Really, the standard chip is good enough for 1080p gaming.

 

[Boomstick777]

tbh i'm properly tempted to grab a Pentium K just for a laugh.

it looks to be a cracking chip

Weird thing about the Pentium K is that it's up there with the other high end Haswell chips in gaming, even in games that are supposed to be multi threaded and not work well on dual cores. Crazy performance for a £50 CPU.

 

[Boomstick777]

I'm not sure what Cat is saying no to in his post above, as opinions are subjective and can't be argued as it's individual lol, but yeah my opinion is that for £50 the Pentium K is an absolute bargain. High IPC, massive overclocks, most getting 4.5Ghz > 4.7Ghz on the stock cooler. Pair that with something like a GTX 750Ti or AMD 265, and you have a decent budget PC that can would be ideal for a budget gamer / overclocker to play with.

Blinding lil chip for the money. Nothing not to like there.

 

[Boomstick777]

The Hexus review did almost nothing to tell us about the overclocking pentium with a discrete GPU.

You need something like a 7870, 10 modern titles, and a bigger comparison of CPU's.

Just for you, some links below. Various CPU's with GTX 780 Ti.

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I think people need to remember context here as well. Have highlighted the K VS the FX for a quick comparison of what £50 will get you gaming wise. The Intel Dual Core Haswell K chip (2 Threaded) VS AMD's FX 8350 (8 Threaded)

For typical a budget PC: gaming / browser / general PC use this chip is awesome. The FX 6300 is ok as well at around the £70 mark. Personally the K chip paired with a newer motherboard (Z97) for future upgrade options would be preferable. Ideal first PC for someone who may be able to upgrade it in the future. Whereas AMD AM3 stuff is very much EOL at this point.

Also more importantly, the price..

Intel Pentium K £50
FX 8350 £135

For £50 surely this is impressive even to most pessimistic of individuals?

 

[Boomstick777]

In almost all those examples you posted the FX-4300 was as fast as the 8350 (because almost all those games are single threaded). It's a great chip but you have to consider the use cases carefully (it would struggle in a game like BF4 for example).

However it does demonstrate the lunacy of game optimisation these days. That Pentium ends up faster than a core i7 in SC2 and FS:X because the extra cores reduce the OC headroom of the high end chips. It's completely mad when you think about it.

They have already shown it doesn't struggle with BF4, it puts out the same fps as the 4770K..

It does struggle with Watch Dogs, but unsure whether this is the chip or Watch Dogs being a bit broken..

This is £50... £50...

Within the context of the price, it is amazing lol.

Not much to be negative and pessimistic about, I'm sure this won't stop people trying though lol.

£50...

 

[Boomstick777]

Order the i7. Cant wait!

Nice one, plz share your results when you get it setup

 

[Boomstick777]

People have been saying faster cores for years,but I garner most of you would take a locked Core i7 3770 over a 6GHZ Pentium dual core if given the choice.

Um.. Way to miss the point. The only reason this chip is being mentioned is that it costs only £50..

If it was a simple choice and money was not a consideration than you would get the higher spec product.. Kind like of saying if given the choice you pick a Titan Black over a GTX 750 Ti.. Kind of obvious, when you take cost out of the equation.. Somehow that was lost on you? You took the one thing that made the chip have appeal (It's performance VS it's price) and then said if you had a choice between this a much higher end CPU you wouldn't choose it..

Back into reality where money is a consideration for casual PC users / budget gamers and the Pentium K is only £50, uses a modern chipset that could support future CPU for a budget gamer it's ideal for that type of setup. An entry level into a decent platform.

Stop trying to find reasons to be negative and pessimistic. It's not good to think this way

 

[Boomstick777]

Looks like this is building up to an epic fail - a lot of hoo haa about a very ordinary product. Think I will stick to my current chip and wait for X99.

Mark

Agreed, I built a Z97 PC thinking 4790K would be decent and I would give my 4770K to the boys. Reviews so far the 4790K isn't worth it..

Thinking Broadwell 14nm mainstream chips will likely be the same, poor TIM and limited overclocking without de-lidding.

Now I'm thinking I'll just wait for X99 and grab a 5820K. Gives my boys this PC and start a new build. Then can upgrade to Broadwell -E later on and no worries about crappy TIM or IGPU that I do not want..

Maybe this is Intel's plan to get people to move up to high end.. Lol, they got me.

 

[Boomstick777]

After watching TTL's review and reading some others, got my interest back in this 4790K chip.

Basically if you run it at stock it's 4.4Ghz turbo is sustainable with decent cooling. Gives about 17% performance increase over 4770K (Stock VS Stock) as my 4770K gets about as hot as a thousand suns even mildly overclocked, I may still consider grabbing a 4790K and just run it at stock, enjoy the extra stable speed and lower temps.

 

[Boomstick777]

I think I am gonna skip this generation I have X99 !!

The onboard VRM is different in DC but is compatible with Z87 and Z97.

Z97 however will be the sole platform for Brioadwell.

Obviously that was meant as a cruel tease , that your unlikely to answer any follow up questions to... But..

Could you just answer this... In your opinion is X99 worth an upgrade / the extra cost from 4770K / Z97?

 

[Boomstick777]

Someone can buy a Z97 and that £50 Pentium, cane the rear end off it and overclock it to within an inch of its life, then chuck it in the bin when Broadwell comes out.

Yeah, the Pentium K is a great way to gain an entry level Haswell system for very little money. Then has a great upgrade path if wanted / needed later on.

Not much to complain out with this chip. At around £50 it's a complete bargain.

 

[Boomstick777]

Any charlie with his head screwed on would pick an 8320 and save £35 if your mentioning the buzz words "budget rig"

Why buy into AM3 at this point?

I said was Pentium K at £50 is a bargain CPU. Especially as it's on a platform with other upgrade options and 14nm chips later on.

All you AMD nuts are mad at Intel or something, it's really weird tbh.

If you got a problem with my opinion it's not my problem tis yours. People are allowed different opinions.

Deal with it.

 

[Boomstick777]

Your the one comparing it to the mid priced offering FX... get a grip - take a chill pill.

So you quote a tiny part of my post, where I mentioned the FX 8350 had been benched alongside the Pentium K, to show what performance is like in gaming. You used that to justify you moaning about a £50 CPU.

Like I said before, a £50 CPU that can overclock and has no probs keeping up in gaming and other tasks, there is very little to moan about there, but somehow some people try to find a way

You get a grip mate.

Take it easy.

Love Boomstick

 

[Boomstick777]

Ragged on air!!!

Nice, 1.547 volts on air though . Hopefully a 4.5Ghz 24/7 Ghz clock might be attainable on these. They don't seem to have those temp spikes that 4770K gets.