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Intel Now Operating On A Net Loss, $1.61 Billion In The Red

Apart from space, power draw and heat dissipation one of the benefits is that when I fly around the EU, I can game on a 4080 pretty much anywhere I go.

No gaming laptop, no rig, just a Macbook air M3 with a video output and an xbox controller.

Warhammer III was a tipping point for me, it runs great on Nvidia Ultimate.

If I need to crunch some numbers the M3 in the air is more than capable and it is fanless.
 
A subscription that can be increased in price as and when they feel like it. People are desperate to give companies more power over things like this. I don't really get it.
This is the really scary thing about everything these days changing to subscription and the worst part is every company wants their own subscription service
 
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the buisiness model they all want = 'insert cash here on a regular basis'

money makes the world go around apparently. i'm a bit disillusioned with the world in general.

and according to the sales stats, laptops are where the bulk of the "PC" revenues are. globally
 
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the buisiness model they all want = 'insert cash here on a regular basis'

The problem with these subscription services is so many people look at each one as it only around a tenner per month or £2.50 per week
It makes it so easy to fall for and before you know it you're paying for 5 or 6 different ones

I myself cancelled Disney+ & Apple TV+ earlier this year

But am still paying for these below

Netflix
Amazon Prime
Xbox gamepass ultimate
PS+
99p icloud
 
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The problem with these subscription services is so many people look at each one as it only around a tenner per month or £2.50 per week
It makes it so easy to fall for and before you know it you're paying for 5 or 6 different ones

I myself cancelled Disney+ & Apple TV+ earlier this year

But am still paying for these below

Netflix
Amazon Prime
Xbox gamepass ultimate
PS+
99p icloud
me too. i had multiple subs. and multiple charities as well. it was $200 aud per month ~100 pounds (yes i added them all up). so anyway. i got a new debit card and they all fell away...
now ive only just been suckered into one charitable donation. and i have netflix with ads (the cheapest sub) and thats how it will remain. might change a flix sub to another one but only one at a time. i havent watched any of the latest s2 rings of power.. :(

had
stan
binge
prime
apple
paramount
disney
netflix
not all concurrently but several at a time.

..and there are heaps more of these 'services' like topsy.
 
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According to this, Intel are $50 billion in debt now.

TechPowerUp | Posted on 27 November 2024 said:
Qualcomm Abandons Intel Takeover, Focuses on Division Acquisitions

In a recent report from Bloomberg citing people familiar with the matter, it seems that Qualcomm is now rethinking its acquisition of Intel because of financial and regulatory issues, which indicates that the potential purchase of Intel is, in some way, losing speed. Undoubtedly, the prospective arrangement has its flaws which are of a big nature. Let us not forget that Intel's debt burden of approximately $50 billion further complicates the company's financial picture. Further to the merger, regulatory approvals would be involved, which would be a long process and, therefore, very difficult. Qualcomm is currently thinking about whether to buy only a certain segment of Intel's business, possibly the division of the company that produces semiconductor chips, instead of the whole company.

Intel's CEO, Pat Gelsinger, has made it clear that they are not planning to split up the company. During an interview in November, he talked about his determination which he described as "energy and passion" to move the organization in the right direction and their strategy of "being different and at the same time, better together." Intel is leveraging other options to better its financial standing as recently this week, the company closed a $7.86 billion financing deal which is part of the US CHIPS Act, among the $3 billion from Pentagon contract confirmed this summer. Intel is still on the lookout for possibilities to do away with some of its divisions; Altera is one that it seems to be most willing to sell. Lattice Semiconductor has made a statement that it is ready to take over Altera and it would not be a surprise if Qualcomm also enters the bidding game. Qualcomm's goal is to generate an additional $22 billion in annual revenue by 2029, however, CEO Cristiano Amon said in a Bloomberg interview last week that "right now, at this time, we have not identified any large acquisition that is necessary for us to execute on this $22 billion."
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They deserve it, ignoring cpu problems and instead of replacing them they tryed to cover up the problem.

Intel's handling of it hasn't been great, and there are issues, but from what I can see disgruntled ex Intel employees from recent lay-offs seem to behind this being a "massive dire" problem whereas the reality is a lot less chips seem to be affected. And AMD's handling of the 7000 series SoC voltage failures just over a year ago wasn't exactly much different - albeit in both cases motherboard manufacturers also share a good bit of the blame.
 
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According to this, Intel are $50 billion in debt now.


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Maybe BlackRock can invest in them and make the CPUs trans or something. I'm sure that would help.
 
According to this, Intel are $50 billion in debt now.
misleading loads of big companies have debt.
they were once AAA rated or whatever and had access to super cheap money.

Nvidia has 8bil debt
amd 2bil
meta 28bil
google 13bil
msft 42bil
apple 85bil debt


it doesnt reflect much on the company, apple is sitting on 65b cash
all those companies probably have a lot of money in long term investments too on their financials
 
misleading loads of big companies have debt.
they were once AAA rated or whatever and had access to super cheap money.

Nvidia has 8bil debt
amd 2bil
meta 28bil
google 13bil
msft 42bil
apple 85bil debt


it doesnt reflect much on the company, apple is sitting on 65b cash
all those companies probably have a lot of money in long term investments too on their financials

Yeah the question is the confidence and terms of those they owe money to, it is only a problem if they can't service any debt.
 
misleading loads of big companies have debt.
they were once AAA rated or whatever and had access to super cheap money.

Nvidia has 8bil debt
amd 2bil
meta 28bil
google 13bil
msft 42bil
apple 85bil debt


it doesnt reflect much on the company, apple is sitting on 65b cash
all those companies probably have a lot of money in long term investments too on their financials

Microsoft and Apple are trillion $ companies.

Intel, $100 billion valuation with $46 billion debt and $9 billion cash on hand
AMD, $220 billion valuation with $2 billion debt and $5 billion cash on hand

You know... they aren't equivalent, not even close but i agree there is nothing hyperbolically wrong with the shape of Intel finances at the moment, tho it is also not what anyone would call ok, it is slightly alarming.

The main problem is Intel have been operating at an on / off loss for the last couple of years, this last quarter alone they lost $17 billion, that is more than slightly alarming, a couple more quarters half as bad as that and the klaxons around Intel will be wailing loudly, that's when Intel will have to start selling off more than the side hustles they have accumulated over the decades, that's when serious bits of Intel are put up for sale.
 
You know... they aren't equivalent, not even close but i agree there is nothing hyperbolically wrong with the shape of Intel finances at the moment, tho it is also not what anyone would call ok, it is slightly alarming.
slightly alarming if you don't understand the stock market sure, on a face of it level shown to a random person fort scaremongering yes... i'd agree...
 
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He got retired. Latest rumours is that there were massive differences between Pat and some members of the board moving forward. A loss for the company imo, I hope they learned their lesson and appoint another engineer and not a business guy.

2025 will define his legacy as CEO.
 
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